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Old 09-10-2009, 08:43 AM
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Setting up the 63 to plow

I've been setting up my 63 to plow this winter. I used the original Meyers frame, head gear and Monarch pump. Added in a pair of good used Jeep light mounts (can't remember who I got them from on here, but thanks!), an NOS Deitz light kit, a spare FIsher 2 cable joystick (added a Meyers knob to it for good measure) and a Fisher power angle spool valve. I've had a Meyers P-angle spool valve for a while, but with it's push-pull rods I didn't have anywhere to locate it (without it being in the way of removing my dipstick and oil filter).

I did use the Meyers juction block down on the head gear though. That is from a 67 J2000 I found at a local junkyard. Originally Meyers ran one QD off it. Leaving one hose on the truck and one on the plow. I plumbed mine up so both hoses stay on the plow. I scored a very nice (no rot, pits or dents in the moldboard) Meyers ST7.5 power angle blade. It needs a cutting edge but has new uh...sticks (whatever they are called on the ends of the blade!), both skids and a fresh(crappy) coat of Safety yellow. Only paid $152.50 for it on the bay.

I still need to make a bracket to move the pump about 1/2" forward and find a new place for my horn.












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Old 09-10-2009, 09:39 AM
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Nice! I hope it doesn't get too exposed to the salt on the roads
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:58 PM
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No rust ?

Thom as always

I don't know the first thing about snow plows.... but 63 looks like it's all set to earn its keep.

tire chains?

which bed is going to stay on the 63 ?
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:18 PM
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Frame reinforcement comes to mind
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:12 PM
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It's not going to see much road salt, I'm just going to be doing my driveway with it. The most salt it will see is when I push snow across the street into a ditch.

That rust free Thriftside bed is on to stay (excpet for when I remove it to put the lift frame under it).

I don't tihnk frame reinforcements are needed. I've always heard they have weak front frames, but this has plowed all it's life (well, from 63-75 when it was parked anyway) and I don't see any evidence of frame damage.

My cousin came over and gave me a hand getting the blade out fro the 71. I need to move the mounting tabs in to fit the Jeep plow frame and run some falt stock from under the mount to the A-frame to reinforce the area.

Scored a Fisher style juction at the junk yard today. It's just a flat plate the two QD ends clip into, probably won't use it. But, it does have my 1/4" QD dust covers I need, so those will be going on tomorrow.

I'm also heading to Fleet Pride for some new u-bolts. I'm going to add a couple of leaves to the spring packs. This one still has the stock 6 leaf packs. Every other Jeep I've seen with a facotry plow has two AAL's. I think they where dealer added, and this being an early production truck it didn't get them when the plow was added.
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Old 09-25-2009, 05:02 PM
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Bought, cleaned and installed a 60's vintage Signal Stat 4 lense (single bulb) rotating beacon. I'm into it for about $40 now. Loud, but it works nice and looks good. It's switched on by a toggle mounted in a Ford 4-way flasher toggle switch bracket.

I've got a cutting edge and bolt kit on order, so all I need to do is make a loner bracket to slide my pump forward, and move the mount points on the plow in to 17.5" on center.




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Old 09-25-2009, 07:38 PM
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Nice set up. I love plowing
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Old 09-25-2009, 07:49 PM
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Yeah it's fun as long as all I'm doing is my own place. Not sure how much I'd like it if I was going to start plowing for a living. That might get old. Wouldn't be doing it in the 63 either. Manual steering would get to be a pita real fast.
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:59 PM
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Nice! You've got a great jump on things by getting this stuff all set way before the snow flies. Great job getting all those parts together. The beacon is perfect.
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:40 PM
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Thanks a lot for reminding me of snow right now...

But aside from that nice job, Thom!

If you're running a straight pipe exhaust just bear in mind that with some fuel systems such a vehicle can be cussid to start on cold mornings without the back pressure. It will pop and fart, but wear the battery down before it ever takes off....AMHIK...
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:51 PM
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Yeah it's fun as long as all I'm doing is my own place. Not sure how much I'd like it if I was going to start plowing for a living. That might get old. Wouldn't be doing it in the 63 either. Manual steering would get to be a pita real fast.

Try steering a '59 FC-170 with armstrong gear. That is a J.O.B.--job! I haven't got any straight answers through web-surfing, but one source has the 226 Continental L6 weighing in at 1500lbs! I highly doubt it weighs that much, but it is certainly apt to be heavy. And the weight to bear on the axle is something else--especially with the plow out front.

You might wanna consider R&R upgrade to boosted steering.

The other thing about snow removal for income--as said by a wise--and unfortunately late--mechanic friend of mine--is that at least half of your cash intake needs to go in the glovebox for repairs, and any remainder to beans, butter and baby shoes....
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:54 PM
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Nice set up. I love plowing
Well--assuming you are talking about snow removal--I hope you love it as much as I hate it. That way you'll be the happiest camper on Earth.
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Old 09-26-2009, 10:01 PM
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Frame reinforcement comes to mind

The last two I had my plow on had frame trouble, but it was in other end of the trucks from rust.

I have been doing some work on my 82 J20 plow truck, just some maintence issues left after an RnR of the seats and some floor patching.


My plow setup is very simmilar, full hyd was a factory dodge unit, runs off of a power steering pump with a can for extra fluid cut into the left fender, the origonal pump quit and grabbed a pump off of an 82 cherokee.

I like those cables on your control, I have 2 knobs with rods going to the valves under hood.

I have those dietz lights also, thinking of getting an extra set if the place on the bay still has them as I have broken the plastic park/turn lamps the 2 years I've had them on, had to have them since I swapped in a razor grille.
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Old 09-26-2009, 10:05 PM
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The 63 originally had the rods (well rod as it was only power up) coming through the dash. I wasnted to use that style spool valve, bubt just didn't have the room for the control rods after adding power brakes.

The Fisher joystick is much nicer though. Much more precise and very easy to adjust.
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Old 09-26-2009, 10:16 PM
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Yeah it's fun as long as all I'm doing is my own place. Not sure how much I'd like it if I was going to start plowing for a living. That might get old. Wouldn't be doing it in the 63 either. Manual steering would get to be a pita real fast.


Still it may be worth setting up agreements with a couple neighbors close by (granted you talk to them) to plow em out. One good season would pay for the truck. I think it'd do fine if you got to it before the snow got too thick or icy. That thing would ROCK out here with the powder we get. though with my Cherokee and 33" MTs, 2 feet of snow=a parking spot

Funny..growing up in NE CT, all the construction guys would hang to the tools up in fall and plow all winter. Got bad there before I left New England with the slew of back to back light winters. Not sure what it's been like since I moved away in 1999..
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Old 09-26-2009, 10:17 PM
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Looking at the pics again I can see the way mine is would not even fit the way it does on mine. My valve is close to where the end of your booster setup is, on the newer truck I actually had to move the ignition box, and the rods go between my booster and the hood hinge.
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Old 09-26-2009, 10:27 PM
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I had it mounted up with all the rods hooked up before the booster went in.

See the plastic hose clip on the pump to valve hose? That was the forward mounting hole. Both rods ran behind the booster. Endedup running wires through one hole and one of the Fisher cables through the other.

Also picked up some nice Fisher QD rubber dust covers from the junk yard. Someone actually junked a F250 with a complete (truck side complete any way) Fisher minute mount full hydro. plow.

Also picked up a nice 1/4" male to 3/8" male 90* elbow I'm going to use on the lift piston. Get rid of that adapter mess on it now.
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Old 09-27-2009, 07:30 PM
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Very nice job setting that up. Watch that lift arm though, that style allows the chain to bouce off as it wears. You may want to put on a newer one that locks the chain in better. Your truck brings back memories of my '74. Looked very similar. I loved plowing with Jeep pick-ups, I did it until about '88 when the '84 started getting tired and I replaced it with a Ford.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:53 PM
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Okay, so i've missed all of the storems we've had so far. No biggie. I'm an hours work away from being good-to-go for the next one.

Got my new pump main bracket made, painted and installed. Nice to have some forward travel on the pump for adjustment. I also ran another brace to support it (you can see two identical ones half way down the min braces length, I just added the forward one).



Remounted my horn lower since the Fisher spool valve is sitting where it used to be.



Filled the system up with some No. 10 Hyd. oil and....no leaks. The lift piston works just fine and the pump makes no bad noises.

Got the plow mounts redone to fit the Jeeps cross bar/mounting basket.



These area ctually pretty good looking for me with my stick welder. Some under cutting, I had to drop it down to 105 from 120. Done using 15 or so year old 6013 rods. I can't believe they are still good (not the best storage).




The old cross bar and the one I just put in. I had to drop the new one down one set of holes to ge the sector frame to sit level with the plow lowered.


Crappy almost dark pic of the blade up. I still need to replace the fitting I broke on the left angle piston. With the balde up the truck only squatted maybe 3/4".
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looks a heck of a lot better than my old plow beast.
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