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Old 11-09-2010, 03:07 PM
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1979 Cherokee 360 T-18 with hydraulic set up

1979 cherokee 360 T-18 Hydraulic Clutch set up
I was doing some searches on hydraulic clutches and i really did not see anyone with a completed set up on a T-18?

I was wondering what junkyard parts you Hydraulic guys used to make it work if at all or maybe i just missed it on T18s.
I skimmed through several different threads using different master cyl. slave cyl Ax-15,Cjs,tjs,GM.
im trying to find out what would work on a budget in a FSJ with the stock trans thanks Guys !
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:11 PM
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Just get one from a '60s rig if you want oem hydraulics. It uses a simple external slave. Personally, I'm not a fan of things that leak down and leave you inop. If I was having trouble with frame flex I'd switch to a cable operated system or box the frame before I'd go with something I've mostly had trouble with in the past. My F350 is doing well, but everything else I've had with a juice clutch was less than reliable in every day street use.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:18 PM
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oh ok thats seems simple enough. I will tell him (my buddy) is there a certain year to look for ? j truck or wagoneer? and would he would just need the line and Mc and the slave cyl. correct ? Thanks E!
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:32 PM
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Novak sells a kit, as does BJs (repackaged Novak kit from the pics). Most of the parts are CJ parts IIRC.

Personally...I hate mechanical clutches...everything has gone hydro for a reason. No offense Elliott. Linkage is simple, but hydraulics are not rocket science either. Only thing I've ever had cause problems in hydro setups is poor maintenance. It's really no different than a brake system.

If you do go with a hydro setup DO NOT run an internal slave. External all the way.


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Old 11-09-2010, 03:35 PM
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:42 PM
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were thinking of hydraulic just because of the worn linkages etc..the parts store seem to stock most of this stuff
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Old 11-10-2010, 09:52 AM
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I think it's 4wdHardware that has all the linkage bits/bushings (that are cheap) for the CJ and most of that 'cept the zbar interchanges.
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Novak sells a kit, as does BJs (repackaged Novak kit from the pics). Most of the parts are CJ parts IIRC.

Personally...I hate mechanical clutches...everything has gone hydro for a reason. No offense Elliott. Linkage is simple, but hydraulics are not rocket science either. Only thing I've ever had cause problems in hydro setups is poor maintenance. It's really no different than a brake system.

If you do go with a hydro setup DO NOT run an internal slave. External all the way.


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Yep, but some are very poorly designed, a pita to bleed and if you lost fluid or got the slightest air in your system you are just down where linkage can always be fabbed up to get you out. The internal slaves can work great, but when they don't you've got a real project on your hands. I've had the worst of luck and the best of luck with hydraulics, with manual I've never had a problem... but then I actually prefer solid lifters and multiple carbs too.
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LOL. Oh I agree...there are bad setups (my setup has no bleeder...good times). Even then though I will take the hydro setup vs. linkage. Course...I prefer EFI over carbs everyday.


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I used the brake master cylinder from my '63 J300 as the clutch master cylinder. It's much more common than the actual part and very cheap. Works great with my NV4500 setup.
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I don't recommend robbing CJ parts. My 82 CJ8 at 80,000 miles was on it's 3rd slave cyl. Stock Girling(lucas) parts are junk.
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I don't recommend robbing CJ parts. My 82 CJ8 at 80,000 miles was on it's 3rd slave cyl. Stock Girling(lucas) parts are junk.

That's what I had fun with on the TRs I had. On the '66 I got my cab off of... it was a late model J20 chassis under it and the T18 must have had a slave because I remember pulling the clutch MC off the firewall and it had a vertical bolt pattern... which I think was Dodge.
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I had a 65 J300 come here as a parts truck for my Gladiator build..it had a chevy 304, unknown 3spd and a d20. Had a hydro-clutch setup that I yanked and stuffed away somewhere. Ran off a brake MC like Mikel said..looked very simple (which is good considering the quality of the swap.. ) just a actuator bolted to the engine that went down to the arm on the bellhousing and a spring.
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I used the brake master cylinder from my '63 J300 as the clutch master cylinder. It's much more common than the actual part and very cheap. Works great with my NV4500 setup.

hmm do you have pics of that? and would it work the same on the T-18
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