SETTING UP A DANA 44

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  • JERSEY JOE
    304 AMC
    • Jan 15, 2004
    • 1609
    #1

    SETTING UP A DANA 44

    Guys what is a good starting point for a shim thickness for a pinion on a
    Dana 44? Also does the Pinion Depth gauge made by RACTECH work on our Dana 44 fronts? Their website says part number 10011 fits but the detail says only 2007 and newer
    1985 J-20 401 6 inch lift, 37's plow truck. CURRENT PROJECT
    1986 CJ 7 360 T-18 granny low Dana 44 , 4 inch lift 35's
    1882 CJ 7 360 727 auto Dana 60's 35's cage
    1970 AMX was SCCA B production. 390 cross ram. GOOGLE IT
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  • J20 project
    304 AMC
    • Dec 27, 2000
    • 2487
    #2
    So what thickness came out?
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    • JERSEY JOE
      304 AMC
      • Jan 15, 2004
      • 1609
      #3
      DANA 44

      I am working with a blank housing so I have no idea what the shim was that came out, which is why I am just looking for a starting point
      1985 J-20 401 6 inch lift, 37's plow truck. CURRENT PROJECT
      1986 CJ 7 360 T-18 granny low Dana 44 , 4 inch lift 35's
      1882 CJ 7 360 727 auto Dana 60's 35's cage
      1970 AMX was SCCA B production. 390 cross ram. GOOGLE IT

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      • SJTD
        304 AMC
        • Apr 26, 2012
        • 1956
        #4
        Pose to be a number on the face of the gear that's the dimension from the ring center. There's a tool for this that I thought I saw for $100ish in a Jegs or Summit catalog. Much more for a big name brand.

        Maybe check Amazon. Could maybe cobble something together. Haven't decided if I'll buy it or rig up somethin when I need it.

        Trying to do it without the pinion depth correct to start means a lot of back and forth since that can affect backlash too. So you guess at the pinion depth, set the ring by backlash, check the pattern, oops pinions off, take it all apart, reshim the pinion, set the backlash, check the pattern, reshim the pinion.....

        The pinion tool gets that right to start with and cuts the trial and error way back.
        Last edited by SJTD; 04-14-2021, 10:13 PM.
        Sic friatur crustulum

        '84 GW with Nissan SD33T, early Chev NV4500, 300, narrowed Ford reverse 44, narrowed Ford 60, SOA/reversed shackle in fornt, lowered mount/flipped shackle in rear.

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        • JERSEY JOE
          304 AMC
          • Jan 15, 2004
          • 1609
          #5
          DANA 44

          RACTECH makes an inexpensive tool that works well. I was just trying to get close before I start fitting. The RACTECH tool is like a GO NO GO gauge.
          1985 J-20 401 6 inch lift, 37's plow truck. CURRENT PROJECT
          1986 CJ 7 360 T-18 granny low Dana 44 , 4 inch lift 35's
          1882 CJ 7 360 727 auto Dana 60's 35's cage
          1970 AMX was SCCA B production. 390 cross ram. GOOGLE IT

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          • J20 project
            304 AMC
            • Dec 27, 2000
            • 2487
            #6
            So would you like to know how to do it or????
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            • SJTD
              304 AMC
              • Apr 26, 2012
              • 1956
              #7
              Wasn't that his initial question, clarified in his second post?

              I'd like to know if it saves me buying the tooling or several hours of trial and error.

              And if I'm wrong about that I'd like to know that also.
              Last edited by SJTD; 04-19-2021, 09:25 PM.
              Sic friatur crustulum

              '84 GW with Nissan SD33T, early Chev NV4500, 300, narrowed Ford reverse 44, narrowed Ford 60, SOA/reversed shackle in fornt, lowered mount/flipped shackle in rear.

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              • JERSEY JOE
                304 AMC
                • Jan 15, 2004
                • 1609
                #8
                PINION DEPTH

                No I have done the before. I was just asking for a starting point in reference to pinion shims to save me a few steps. A great tool made by Ractech part number 10011 is a go-no-go gauge that is inexpensive and will help you set the proper pinion depth. Once that is done I have borrowed a set of " trial bearings" from Bob Gibson which will allow me to set the backlash without having to press the bearings on and off multiple times.

                Thank you for the recommendation on using about .035 shim stack as a starting point.
                1985 J-20 401 6 inch lift, 37's plow truck. CURRENT PROJECT
                1986 CJ 7 360 T-18 granny low Dana 44 , 4 inch lift 35's
                1882 CJ 7 360 727 auto Dana 60's 35's cage
                1970 AMX was SCCA B production. 390 cross ram. GOOGLE IT

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                • SJTD
                  304 AMC
                  • Apr 26, 2012
                  • 1956
                  #9
                  So the procedure was splained in a private message?

                  Unfortunate.

                  How are us ignernt folks going to learn anything.
                  Sic friatur crustulum

                  '84 GW with Nissan SD33T, early Chev NV4500, 300, narrowed Ford reverse 44, narrowed Ford 60, SOA/reversed shackle in fornt, lowered mount/flipped shackle in rear.

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                  • JERSEY JOE
                    304 AMC
                    • Jan 15, 2004
                    • 1609
                    #10
                    SETTING UP A DANA 44

                    No the private message was to get the trial fit bearings. I will be happy to explain as I go along if you wish
                    1985 J-20 401 6 inch lift, 37's plow truck. CURRENT PROJECT
                    1986 CJ 7 360 T-18 granny low Dana 44 , 4 inch lift 35's
                    1882 CJ 7 360 727 auto Dana 60's 35's cage
                    1970 AMX was SCCA B production. 390 cross ram. GOOGLE IT

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                    • rang-a-stang
                      Administrator
                      • Oct 31, 2016
                      • 5512
                      #11
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