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Old 03-20-2019, 01:20 PM
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J10 727 rebuild. First time for everything.

Had my comverter take a nice one which dragged the tranny down the heelish pit with it. Thats said i kinda new it was coming. But the trans shop wanted 3700 for a rebuild. Amd that seems a little over priced. But i think i can tackle this myself to save some money(much needed) but amy advice on parts needed? I am prwtty mechanicalky inclined but asking those with experience for a few pointers
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Old 03-20-2019, 04:57 PM
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$3700 does seems crazy. That's sounds like a 'they pull the trans, rebuild it, give you a new converter, and reinstall' price. If you pull the trans and give it to them, it should be half that, I'm thinking. Mine was $800, but I called the guy later with a question and read him the invoice and he said "$800?!?! Why did I only charge you $800?" I said I don't know, but thanks

I was going to rebuild mine, so I bought this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Torqueflite-7.../dp/1557883998

It's a good book, very detailed and gives step by step instructions, and I believe a guy could rebuild one using that book and getting the special tools. But I found a guy who did mine for $800, so.....I went that route.

Since you're in Brighton, this is where I had mine rebuilt in Arvada. I think the name has changed since I did mine, I'm not sure if these are the same guys with a name change or not. I don't have my invoice anymore, maybe I'm loosing it and the name hasn't changed or anything. But if it is under new management, or the same guys, they are getting good google reviews.

http://activetransmission.com

And Branting Industries, 5280 W 56th Ave, Arvada is the place that rebuilt my torque converter, they are very good. They don't have a website, just a facebook page. Google them they have 5 star reviews too.

You might call those 2 guys and get a quote. Otherwise, that book on 727s is good. I would get the book, read thru it, and call those 2 shops and get a quote, and see which route you want to go.
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:01 PM
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thank you for the leads, and i mentioned the self drop and install. his response was warranty dropped and 500 off. i called the tow right about then
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:06 PM
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Not sure where you're located but I came across this a few days ago:
https://nh.craigslist.org/pts/d/broo...842909409.html
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:45 PM
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thank you for the leads, and i mentioned the self drop and install. his response was warranty dropped and 500 off. i called the tow right about then

Absolutely no reason they shouldn't warranty work on a self install, unless they can demonstrate that something you did wrong broke it during reinstall. That, combined with the price, would cross that shop off my list forever. They clearly don't want to do the work, hence the ridiculous price. From everything I've seen around here, these transmissions are incredibly easy to rebuild (as far as autos go). For someone that's familiar with it, I bet it's an afternoon job. No reason to be that crazy price.


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Old 03-20-2019, 11:02 PM
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I did a Ford AOD a few years ago and bought a how-to video. It was about $45 and great. I am sure there are 727 videos out there too. Check youtube and i bet you will find some on there as well.

When I needed a special tool to do a step, I just took my parts to my local trans shop expecting to spend $10 for them to do it. They just did it for free.

There are rebuild kits all over amazon, summit, and ebay. after you watch a few videos and have an idea of how to do it, order a kit and go from there!
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Old 03-21-2019, 08:21 AM
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... They clearly don't want to do the work, hence the ridiculous price. ...
Indeed. It's my impression this is a common tactic that shops use to pick the jobs they want.

I'd just follow the TSM. Realize that the TSM was written for the dealership shops, though the later ones are much more detailed. If it says to use a spacial tool or other issue you don't understand, ask.
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Old 03-21-2019, 11:01 AM
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3700? they are nuts! good you got out of there, on average$1200-1500 for a 727 rebuild.
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Old 03-21-2019, 11:17 AM
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Well i have decided to dona rebuild myself. Gonna stick to stock except for maybe a small shift kit i hard transgo has some good ones. Still may just hold off on that to get back in roadworthy xxv conditions. Still gotta smog check it and there is no cat or emission period. If i didnt believe this was a extremely rpugh diamond i wouldve given up 2000$ ago on parts haha. But the dreamers are often mistaken for the foolish. The only difference is the results.
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Old 03-21-2019, 12:14 PM
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I rebuilt and slightly modified the 727 for my car basically using that Munroe book and the '68 Plymouth service manual.

If you don't mind some welding, you can make up a holder to stabilize the case while working on it. I made a metal version of somehting like the last photo in this thread.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads...ge-stands.html

But I've seen guys just work on a metal table, and a mechanic at a Jeep dealership told me an empty trash can was great for holding them when your working on the pump end.

There's also a couple of other books, one for auto tech training and a new one by Tom Hand that I suspect is pretty good. The only ones that probably cover jeeps (and 4WD Dodge trucks?) may be the service manuals. But the differences will be mostly in the details.

A few semi-special tools needed like a slide hammer and a selection of snap ring pliers.
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:33 PM
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727 is very easy to rebuild almost as easy as the ford c4 and c6 go for it make us proud we will be here
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Old 03-27-2019, 07:12 PM
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So it is done and reinstalled. And grqbs right away drive and reverse. But it wont come out of first. Anyone maybe have a clue to look at
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Old 03-27-2019, 08:36 PM
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Well figured thatbussue out. The throttle valve rod off the shift linkage brace wasnt in its hole...... no wonder why it didnt wanna perform. But after fixing that i now have the issue of it staying in high gear and really lugging the engine down. I have to shift to 2 to put up to speed
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Old 03-28-2019, 05:38 PM
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Change to a cable

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Well figured thatbussue out. The throttle valve rod off the shift linkage brace wasnt in its hole...... no wonder why it didnt wanna perform. But after fixing that i now have the issue of it staying in high gear and really lugging the engine down. I have to shift to 2 to put up to speed
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Lokar makes a few great products we can use on our FSJ's. The tranny kickdown cable is one
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