International Full Size Jeep Association
Home Forums Reader's Rigs Tech Library Trail Stories FSJ-List
International Full Size Jeep Association  

Go Back   International Full Size Jeep Association > Tire Kickin' > Off-Road FSJ Tech

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-14-2008, 04:41 PM
fireman91186's Avatar
fireman91186 fireman91186 is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Aug 26, 2008
Location: Clovis California
Posts: 1,111
Rear bumper help

Now that I finished my front bumper I am going to start on my rear bumper next and am out of ideas besides the plain flat looking bumper. I want it to look as clean as my front and not to out of place. I was also thinking of making it an air tank as well. Have any of you done this and is it worth it.
__________________
79 cherokee W/T 360 T-18 trans dana 20 transfercase with custom 1.5 spring hangers in front 4" springs in rear 33" swampers
78 cherokee chief W/T stock running but barely.
2002 stock chevy 4x4 1500 hd
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-14-2008, 07:17 PM
Dmntxn77's Avatar
Dmntxn77 Dmntxn77 is offline
Hey watch this...
 
Join Date: Nov 19, 2004
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 8,327
How about a safari style rear?

Tube bumper, jerry can holder, cooler basket, and swing out tire carrier...

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-14-2008, 07:42 PM
fireman91186's Avatar
fireman91186 fireman91186 is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Aug 26, 2008
Location: Clovis California
Posts: 1,111
I thought about that but I don't know if I want something that big or not?
__________________
79 cherokee W/T 360 T-18 trans dana 20 transfercase with custom 1.5 spring hangers in front 4" springs in rear 33" swampers
78 cherokee chief W/T stock running but barely.
2002 stock chevy 4x4 1500 hd
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-14-2008, 07:44 PM
Dmntxn77's Avatar
Dmntxn77 Dmntxn77 is offline
Hey watch this...
 
Join Date: Nov 19, 2004
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 8,327
Yeah, I dont..

Thats why I sold it...

Of course, I still havent found a reasonable way to ship it..
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-14-2008, 07:53 PM
AlsChopShop's Avatar
AlsChopShop AlsChopShop is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 20, 2005
Location: Portland, Orygun!
Posts: 5,428
here's mine:







would have worked a lot better if i'd have had the bumper on before i smashed the crap out of the rockers tho....


Al
__________________
79 Cherokee Chief "Kronk" - TBI350/SM465/NP205
99 Dodge 2500 4x4 - Cummins 24v
07 Mazdaspeed3 GT - Big turbo, 340whp
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-14-2008, 07:58 PM
Dmntxn77's Avatar
Dmntxn77 Dmntxn77 is offline
Hey watch this...
 
Join Date: Nov 19, 2004
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 8,327
Did you build that Al??

Last edited by Dmntxn77 : 11-14-2008 at 08:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-14-2008, 08:38 PM
fireman91186's Avatar
fireman91186 fireman91186 is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Aug 26, 2008
Location: Clovis California
Posts: 1,111
I like that but I do not have a tube bender. The other problem is P/O put on an after market gas tank that hangs down below the body and the rear bumper that is on there now. He put on a hitch which hangs down even lower then that. So the hitch has to go and some sort of receiver put into the bumper. And I really need to figure how to put in a skid plate for that stupid gas tank thats where the spare used to go. And some how if it is worth it I would like to make it an air tank but still undecided on that.
__________________
79 cherokee W/T 360 T-18 trans dana 20 transfercase with custom 1.5 spring hangers in front 4" springs in rear 33" swampers
78 cherokee chief W/T stock running but barely.
2002 stock chevy 4x4 1500 hd
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-14-2008, 08:42 PM
Dmntxn77's Avatar
Dmntxn77 Dmntxn77 is offline
Hey watch this...
 
Join Date: Nov 19, 2004
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 8,327
You mean you have a super sweet set-up like this bad boy??




Mines comming off soon, along with both gas tanks
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-14-2008, 08:48 PM
fireman91186's Avatar
fireman91186 fireman91186 is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Aug 26, 2008
Location: Clovis California
Posts: 1,111
Something like that actually. What was the P/O thinking when he did that?
I do not plan on really towing with it but I do have quads and maybe locally I would do so. I would rather have it there then not but not hanging so low I drag on speed bumps.
__________________
79 cherokee W/T 360 T-18 trans dana 20 transfercase with custom 1.5 spring hangers in front 4" springs in rear 33" swampers
78 cherokee chief W/T stock running but barely.
2002 stock chevy 4x4 1500 hd
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-14-2008, 09:04 PM
Dmntxn77's Avatar
Dmntxn77 Dmntxn77 is offline
Hey watch this...
 
Join Date: Nov 19, 2004
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 8,327
Quote:
Originally Posted by fireman91186
Something like that actually. What was the P/O thinking when he did that?


I havent a clue!!

I am yanking it all... I plan to buld a custom bumper with a receiver on it. However, the receiver will be IN the bumper, and the bottom of the bumper will not hang much below my frame rails.

I will just carry a long drop hitch for any towing. I wont ever tow anything bigger than a m-101 trailer (that I dont have yet) anyway...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-14-2008, 09:46 PM
fireman91186's Avatar
fireman91186 fireman91186 is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Aug 26, 2008
Location: Clovis California
Posts: 1,111
Ya that is along the same plan I had. And just make a skid plate for the gas tank. But more then likely if I do the receiver the bumper I will do away with the air tank idea.
__________________
79 cherokee W/T 360 T-18 trans dana 20 transfercase with custom 1.5 spring hangers in front 4" springs in rear 33" swampers
78 cherokee chief W/T stock running but barely.
2002 stock chevy 4x4 1500 hd
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-14-2008, 09:53 PM
Dmntxn77's Avatar
Dmntxn77 Dmntxn77 is offline
Hey watch this...
 
Join Date: Nov 19, 2004
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 8,327
You can still make the bumper an air tank with a receiver hitch in it. It just gives you a few more welds that you have to take time on.

Just be sure to do the math to find out what volume of air you can fit in the bumper before you take the time to make it into a tank.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-14-2008, 10:59 PM
fireman91186's Avatar
fireman91186 fireman91186 is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Aug 26, 2008
Location: Clovis California
Posts: 1,111
Ya I still have to do that just to see if it is even worth it. But first I must come up with the final design then I will decide to make it am air tank or not. I was going to do the front bumper that way but it seemed more since to do the rear since there will be no winch so that should make it easier.
__________________
79 cherokee W/T 360 T-18 trans dana 20 transfercase with custom 1.5 spring hangers in front 4" springs in rear 33" swampers
78 cherokee chief W/T stock running but barely.
2002 stock chevy 4x4 1500 hd
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-14-2008, 11:16 PM
Dmntxn77's Avatar
Dmntxn77 Dmntxn77 is offline
Hey watch this...
 
Join Date: Nov 19, 2004
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 8,327
Its probalby not much help, but this is a quick drawling that I made a while back when I was trying to figure out a good way to support a heavy spare.

I have had a few better ideas since, but I havent put them to paper yet. Since, I have decided to put the receiver higher, and mount the spare at an angle.

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-14-2008, 11:23 PM
fireman91186's Avatar
fireman91186 fireman91186 is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Aug 26, 2008
Location: Clovis California
Posts: 1,111
That looks ok but would the spare swing out. It looks like thats what the arm is in the drawing. The only thing i was thinking about is to have is go around the corners to also protect the rear quarters a little and give it a more stock look. And hey the more complicated the better right?
__________________
79 cherokee W/T 360 T-18 trans dana 20 transfercase with custom 1.5 spring hangers in front 4" springs in rear 33" swampers
78 cherokee chief W/T stock running but barely.
2002 stock chevy 4x4 1500 hd
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-14-2008, 11:29 PM
Dmntxn77's Avatar
Dmntxn77 Dmntxn77 is offline
Hey watch this...
 
Join Date: Nov 19, 2004
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 8,327
Yeah, thats a crude swing out drawing... The shelf is to carry the weight though. I figured that I could make the tire mount adjustable enough to give the tire a snug fit on the shelf. That way, the arm and piviot point would not take all the stress while bouncing around off road.

I am with you regarding side protection. I drew up a couple ideas for that too. However, I plan to cut my quarters up to the body line, to remove that fragile corner, and to make my cargo floor flat (no 1/4 panel pockets). So, all my ideas incorporate that into the design.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-14-2008, 11:45 PM
Dr Teeth Dr Teeth is offline
Grease Monkey
 
Join Date: Nov 14, 2006
Location: Redding, California
Posts: 381
Here's where you can get with some body trimming... My hitch didn't hang down as low from the PO but I still gained a good 6" of clearance in the rear.



With the body trimming, ditching the rear crossmember of the frame and incorporating it into the bumper, you can't get it tucked up any farther without cutting the frame.

If you have a tube like the one you used on the front I'd taper it to match the front (basically the same cross section just no winch in the middle). Keep it thick in the middle as you'll need it to mount the hitch as you can't bring it forward like I did because your gas tank is there.

Keep us posted what you come up with.

Todd
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-14-2008, 11:50 PM
Dmntxn77's Avatar
Dmntxn77 Dmntxn77 is offline
Hey watch this...
 
Join Date: Nov 19, 2004
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Posts: 8,327
Thats a nice clean setup... Is that 4" tube? Are those trailer tie-downs for extraction or safety chains?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-14-2008, 11:54 PM
Dr Teeth Dr Teeth is offline
Grease Monkey
 
Join Date: Nov 14, 2006
Location: Redding, California
Posts: 381
Yeah, 4x2. I didn't go anywhere near as big as most guys do, but I also plan on taking it easy with my rig off-road (I know, I shouldn't be saying that in the off-road forum ha-ha). My thought was to just keep it up out of the way as much as possible as these rigs do tend to drag their butts.

The tie downs are for both. When towing, they are for safety chains. When stuck they are for extracting.

Last edited by Dr Teeth : 11-14-2008 at 11:56 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-14-2008, 11:58 PM
fireman91186's Avatar
fireman91186 fireman91186 is offline
Master Mechanic
 
Join Date: Aug 26, 2008
Location: Clovis California
Posts: 1,111
I do like that! I dont want to cut the body because for what I am going to use it for its no worth it. Ya I would like to know if it's 4" as well because thats what I was thinking and yours looks like about just the right size. I do like the tire idea since the gas tank takes up where the spare goes(not that it would fit under there anyway). I think if I use that Idea and mmaybe make it turn the corner it would look pretty good.
__________________
79 cherokee W/T 360 T-18 trans dana 20 transfercase with custom 1.5 spring hangers in front 4" springs in rear 33" swampers
78 cherokee chief W/T stock running but barely.
2002 stock chevy 4x4 1500 hd
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
corner corner