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Old 03-10-2010, 10:19 AM
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J SERIES REAR BUMPER ENDS

There seems to be some confusion concerning the J truck black plastic rear bumper ends and a Scrambler end. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

They look identical except that the J truck end is about 20% larger in evert respect. I personally reied to put an NOS Scrambler end on a J series bumper today and it is not even close to fitting. I have been told that the part number is the same by a reliable source. I can't explain it. I think that the Scrambler rear step type bumper looks like a J truck bumper but iit is smaller in scale. When I have all the pieces together I will upload photos to support this. In the mean time I need a pair of J Truck rear ends....... name yoiur price....
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:45 AM
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Hey Joe,

If you can get a pattern, (may have to make it ) a reasonable reproduction could be made by vacumn forming, this could be done
semi cheap, I'll look at the ends on my garage queen J-10 tonight to
see how involved they are.

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Old 03-10-2010, 11:31 AM
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Sounds like you have end caps for a step bumper from a Sportside J truck, those bumpers are taller. I have ones on my truck that came off scrambler step bumper that I got about 5 years ago from J&W Wreckers. The only difference is their placement on the ends of the bumper (right side one from a scrambler goes on the left side for the truck Townside Step Bumper and vice versa) due to clearance issues with the different rear quarter side shapes. If the ones you have are the same one for each side, not right and left, they probably are for the truck Sportside bumper and they are much harder to find.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:22 PM
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End Cap P/N for 1981 is J813-1226 (same one for both ends)

End Cap P/Ns for 1982-1987 are J536-3170 and J536-3171 (Right and Left) also shows these same P/Ns for Scrambler Step Bumper
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:45 PM
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BUMPER ENDS

DAVE: I NEVER LEFT MY OFFICE FOR LUNCH TODAY, BUT I WILL CHECK THE NUMBER WHEN I GO HOME AND REPORT BACK LATER.


NICE TALKING WITH YOU TODAY.
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:13 PM
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I don't want to thread jack, but I would like to know what a stock bumper looks like for my 67 Gladiator looks like, as I cannot, for the life of me find a photo.
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Old 03-10-2010, 03:22 PM
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Joe, Yeah nice talking to you also.
That size difference is really puzzling me also.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:38 PM
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Bumper ends

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End Cap P/N for 1981 is J813-1226 (same one for both ends)

End Cap P/Ns for 1982-1987 are J536-3170 and J536-3171 (Right and Left) also shows these same P/Ns for Scrambler Step Bumper


Parts books are usually not ever wrong.

This is Scrambler bumper...rubber ends are 5363170 & 5363171

This is J Truck bumper (townside) 82 to 87...rubber ends are 5363170 & 5363171

This shows 1981.... with different rubber ends 8131226
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:55 PM
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I don't want to thread jack, but I would like to know what a stock bumper looks like for my 67 Gladiator looks like, as I cannot, for the life of me find a photo.

Several styles of dealer Jeep SE bumpers for Gladiators:

Braden, one piece wraparound...for shortbed 119" wheelbase (btw...I have this bumper for sale).


Not sure who makes this bumper...I've heard it called "dockside bumper".
Allows you to fold tailgate all the way down to load things....My personal bumper and favorite.



There was also a heavy duty Braden 3 peice bolt together wraparound rear bumper for Gladiator, which I have the NOS center section (still labeled Jeep SE) but not the ends.

And a non wraparound style with no ends.
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Old 03-10-2010, 04:55 PM
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bumper ends

THE ONLY EXPLANATION THEN S THAT J&W SENT ME AN 81 REAR BUMPER. THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY THE ENDS DON'T FIT. THE ENDS I HAVE ARE THE 536 3170 AND 536 3171.

GREAT . I NOW HAVE A PERFECTLY REBUILT 81 REAR WHITE STEP BUMPER THAT I CAN'T USE.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:00 PM
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THE ONLY EXPLANATION THEN S THAT J&W SENT ME AN 81 REAR BUMPER. THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY THE ENDS DON'T FIT. THE ENDS I HAVE ARE THE 536 3170 AND 536 3171.

GREAT . I NOW HAVE A PERFECTLY REBUILT 81 REAR WHITE STEP BUMPER THAT I CAN'T USE.

Yep, glad U can draw conclusion....1981.. One & only year bumper ends...now that's going to be a hard find.

Didn't U ALSO get the slightly bowed Type II bumper from Red 87 J20 from Steve ?
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:08 PM
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Wow Joe that really sucks. I measured my re-chromed bumper and it's 4 3/4" tall same ht. as my painted one.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:14 PM
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I can see the "wanted" section ad now ".....Have perfect 81 j truck bumper...need all other parts to complete build"...

Think of this, you could spec build an 81 J....from the rear bumper forward.



Sorry Joe....couldn't help it

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Old 03-10-2010, 07:27 PM
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REAR BUMPER

Dennis: Yes I have the 1987 rear with the funny bow in it from Maine. I suppose I will have them start on fixing it. Believe me my body guy can make it look like the day it was made. I just thought the one from J & W was a better one to start with. I never thought that the 81 was different. I also have the one on the 86 J-20 which I am currently plowing with up in NY. The bumper was bought new in 2000 for $165.00 from Jeep. It has been on the truck since then and the sad part is the truck has not gone over 2000 miles since then BUT one of my weekend guest one year attempted to help me plow and backed into a snow bank and bent the bumper. It has two decent ends also . I guess it will also be fixed and make a great spare.. I know of a nice one near me on the East Coast but he does not want ot sell it. I guess I am stuck with the 81 bumper, oh well it is really nice if someone wants it.

Snowshoe: that front grille guard look great since I had it blasted and powder coated to match the factory roll bar.
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Old 03-11-2010, 09:55 AM
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Rear bumper specialist

Another FSJ mystery resolved.

Although... I haven't looked thru the books to find the Sportside bumper yet.
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:42 PM
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The Scrambler bumper and ends will not fit the townside body, they are smaller in every way. The Scrambler bumper will fit a sportside, with some mounting modifications, but it is not a sportside bumper. It is missing the flange that covers the rear cross member on the pick-up and the license plate light.
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:29 PM
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The end caps J536-3170 and J536-3171 will fit the townside step bumpers from 82 to 88. They are just placed on opposite ends from those of the Scrambler , thats why the cut outs on the top and bottom of the end caps are different,was to enable their use on Scramblers and J Trucks in 82. Weren't Scramblers introduced for the 82 model year? Please excuse the crude rendering.

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BUMPER ENDS

THE LATEST IS THAT I AM HAVING THE 1987 BUMPER FIXED AND WILL HOLD ON TO THE 81 BUMPER , WHY I DON'T KNOW. PERHAPS BECAUSE BETWEEN BUYING IT, SHIPPING IT AND FIXING IT I HAVE $400.00 INTO IT.

I COULD ALWAYS MOUNT IT WITHOUT THE ENDS AND PRAY THAT THE LORD ALMIGHTY DROPS TWO END AT MY DOOR STEP SOME DAY. BY THE TIME I AM DONE I AM GOING TO HAVE A FEW SPARES.
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Old 03-12-2010, 08:23 PM
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THE LATEST IS THAT I AM HAVING THE 1987 BUMPER FIXED AND WILL HOLD ON TO THE 81 BUMPER , WHY I DON'T KNOW. PERHAPS BECAUSE BETWEEN BUYING IT, SHIPPING IT AND FIXING IT I HAVE $400.00 INTO IT.

I COULD ALWAYS MOUNT IT WITHOUT THE ENDS AND PRAY THAT THE LORD ALMIGHTY DROPS TWO END AT MY DOOR STEP SOME DAY. BY THE TIME I AM DONE I AM GOING TO HAVE A FEW SPARES.

Joe, check with HeadHoncho on here. He told me he has a couple of end caps. Not sure what years or if they are what you need.
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FYI
I have a 1980 Street Side J10 Honcho, the bumper ends were toast.

about 8 yrs ago, I went to Chrysler dealership and ordered a set of Comanche bumper ends, not exactly the same profile, they have a recess in the center, but bolted up straight and looked good.

Hope this helps, a newer part that could be out there.

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