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cu4whln 05-13-2015 09:19 PM

'Da Chief . . . So it Begins again
 
Here we go again.. after much searching, have finally picked up a project wide track.

1977 Chero with 63,000 miles.
BJ's lift with 33" MT/Rs
Original 401 with a Holly carb and Doug Thorley headers [Runs great]
Turbo 400, D 44s of course.. with 3.54 ratios
Quadra Trac. Suspect it has a Mile Marker kit in it as it has Warn locking hubs? [ Have to figure that one out]
Dual tanks, Ac - works !? Man windows, power rear window that works slow
Older resto work is showing through, but the overall condition of the body is very good. Frame is solid.

This time, I am going to take the SLOW road.. do the safety items like brakes.. and enjoy the Jeep as I develop my plan for this project .... starting my parts needed list already.

Original TX car, then AZ, then Virginia. Now Michigan.

More to follow SLOWLY

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ZiRiu 05-13-2015 09:24 PM

Very clean. What color schemes did the Chief's all come in? I see the orange and blacks quite a bit.

bwwhaler 05-14-2015 05:11 AM

Awesome
 
Can't wait to watch this one... I'm sure you will build another awesome FSJ.

Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81 05-14-2015 06:28 AM

Well, I'm excited! :thumbsup:

j2sax 05-14-2015 07:00 AM

rust demons in MI
 
As soon as those MI rust demons get a whiff of this sheetmatel they gonna come gunnin for it so be careful!

Looking forward to your build!

8man 05-14-2015 07:42 AM

Great start!

polarfire 05-14-2015 09:35 PM

Very nice!! Is Jeep Corporate helping on this one? If you sell that front winch bumper please let me know! I've been looking for one!

Subscribed! :thumbsup:

men in black 05-14-2015 11:23 PM

Subscribed! :thumbsup:

cu4whln 05-15-2015 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polarfire
Very nice!! Is Jeep Corporate helping on this one? If you sell that front winch bumper please let me know! I've been looking for one!

Subscribed! :thumbsup:


Absolutely not! This one is going to be a slow work in progress in my home garage. I will be farming out some paint work, local rust and paint repair. Other than that, I want to do a lot of the work myself and show what can be done with the basics.

For now the basic plan is to do what I can at home.. until I decide to do bigger things. I actually want to enjoy this thing on the road a bit as the build plan evolves. this is planned to be a weekend cruiser of sorts. Time will tell of course . . .:fsj:

And .. I am looking for good 3 pc chrome bumpers.. when I get some, you can certainly have the front bumper. I want a stock look on this one.

cu4whln 05-15-2015 08:54 PM

Step one:

Send the white Waggy down the road .. Heading home to Chicago now... all fixed up and ready to drive.

Was getting 7.8 mpg. Removed the vacuum stuff, got the right plugs, wires, cap, etc ....did a full proper tune up with "Old School" mentality..

Now getting 11.5 to 12 mpg. Oh yes! lol a huge improvement...

Now have a open space in my driveway.. and soon garage to start the "work", er - "FUN" !

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cu4whln 05-17-2015 08:46 PM

Brakes !

Oops.. noticed some brake smell when I test drove this thing.. so, have to make it safe. If the Jeep does not move, no problem.. if it does not stop ? Problem! Always start with brake inspections..

So - jack up the Jeep.. and I can't even turn the tire? Uh oh! So I remove the tire and look.. Hmm. All looks normal.. release the bleeder to make sure the master is not stuck.. nope, all normal. just a bit of fluid draining normally. The caliper/pads are definitely dragging.

So I pull the caliper bolts.. and pry, pry, pry the caliper off the rotor.... Houston, we have found the problem! As soon as the caliper is off, rotor spins freely. Scratch one caliper.. OK - have to order pads and calipers.. check. Other side works, but going to replace both.. and get the rotors turned.. they actually look OK.

So - hubs with a Q trac? Figure there must be a Milemarker kit installed in the t-case? The hubs spin the prop freely when engaged.. so it must have a 2WD mode. Hope it's the overdrive one! not sure how to tell if this has the kit or which one. Previous owner had no idea.

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cu4whln 05-17-2015 08:56 PM

Testing . . .

Looking at the paint, it has some serious dull spots.. so take a bit of cutting compound and polish a small area.. shines right up? Looks like some elbow grease is in order...

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So get out the orbital foam pad polisher... and try a bit larger area.. can you tell where I stopped??

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cu4whln 05-17-2015 09:06 PM

As this is a Garage Restoration of sorts.. I plan to do a bunch of labor intensive projects to fix'er up a bit. Maybe someday I'll attack some serious restoration, but for now, I want to enjoy this thing....

So - not wild about the wheels.. and the body color accent with some rusty old chrome. Hmm, wonder what it would look like if I painted the center black? And - get the chrome cleaner out and polish up the wheel as best I can for now.. here's a before and after pic .....

Before:

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In process .. primer, then semi gloss black..

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And the somewhat finished look .. without the center cap cover. Need to find some new ones.. they may not clean up. Again, a bit of work, but I like this look better than the tan centers. now, 4 more wheels to go!

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8man 05-18-2015 07:38 AM

That wheel looks much better.

cu4whln 05-18-2015 08:31 PM

And the "surprises" continue ... Hmmm

So, figure I can get home early enough to do some work on the pending brake rebuild .. then- Start to pull the hub.. Hmm, what? can't seem to get the drive flange off? That's strange... fiddle with it for awhile, can't figure it out.

Take a closer look, and the WARN hub cap says "Lock-O-Matic" ? What the heck is that? Find a hidden snap ring, but it still won't come off. Ooops, dark is here. So no real progress.

Now I have to do some research on these weird locking hubs? Some kind of manual / automatic hub design? I've never heard of this before. That's strange.

I did figure out the Jeep has a Milemarker part time kit.... had to get the bolt off the axle shaft, but it kept spinning. So - start the Jeep, engage the hubs, flip the vacuum switch.. and Waa-la! All locked up. So I guess the t-case is working. Good.

Of course, none of this matters as I cannot drive until I get the rotors off to fix the brakes. Hmm

polarfire 05-19-2015 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cu4whln
And the "surprises" continue ... Hmmm

So, figure I can get home early enough to do some work on the pending brake rebuild .. then- Start to pull the hub.. Hmm, what? can't seem to get the drive flange off? That's strange... fiddle with it for awhile, can't figure it out.

Take a closer look, and the WARN hub cap says "Lock-O-Matic" ? What the heck is that? Find a hidden snap ring, but it still won't come off. Ooops, dark is here. So no real progress.

Now I have to do some research on these weird locking hubs? Some kind of manual / automatic hub design? I've never heard of this before. That's strange.

I did figure out the Jeep has a Milemarker part time kit.... had to get the bolt off the axle shaft, but it kept spinning. So - start the Jeep, engage the hubs, flip the vacuum switch.. and Waa-la! All locked up. So I guess the t-case is working. Good.

Of course, none of this matters as I cannot drive until I get the rotors off to fix the brakes. Hmm


I found this online about the Lock-O-Matic: http://forums.off-road.com/jeepster-...explained.html

I'm not sure if that helps or not. In the past I've been very impressed with Warn's customer service and tech support even with old, used parts I bought off craigslist.

polarfire 05-19-2015 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cu4whln
Absolutely not! This one is going to be a slow work in progress in my home garage. I will be farming out some paint work, local rust and paint repair. Other than that, I want to do a lot of the work myself and show what can be done with the basics.

For now the basic plan is to do what I can at home.. until I decide to do bigger things. I actually want to enjoy this thing on the road a bit as the build plan evolves. this is planned to be a weekend cruiser of sorts. Time will tell of course . . .:fsj:

And .. I am looking for good 3 pc chrome bumpers.. when I get some, you can certainly have the front bumper. I want a stock look on this one.


Sounds like a great plan! I'm excited to watch it come together either way!

Definitely keep me in mind in regards to the bumper and I will keep my eye out for 3pc chrome one for you. Thanks.

cu4whln 05-19-2015 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by polarfire
I found this online about the Lock-O-Matic: http://forums.off-road.com/jeepster-...explained.html

I'm not sure if that helps or not. In the past I've been very impressed with Warn's customer service and tech support even with old, used parts I bought off craigslist.



Oh.. that was good reading! Warn "Lock-O-Matic" hubs. Funny, have never seen or heard of them. Finally got them off tonight.. geez.. NOT easy to do?? Stubborn buggers to get off when you have no idea of how they go together. They seem to be in fine shape, but....

I am definitely NOT going to reuse these things.... I will be buying some plain old, regular, not complicated, normal locking hubs. no need for fancy, simple is good for me. This Jeep will never see snow anyway.:cool:

cu4whln 05-19-2015 08:21 PM

Notice: Empty winch bumper now..

Story here is this: A young man has rebuilt his YJ for 2 years with some minor help and a LOT of instructing from a buddy of mine. He basically did a frame off on the YJ, and then painted his own Jeep. So cool to see a youngster working on his Jeep like mad..

Sooo ... I "sold" him a working 8000 lb WARN winch, with fairlead, for almost nothing. BUT, I am happy to help a new Jeep guy along the path...

Again, I don't want a winch on this Jeep, no need.... trying to return to stock looks .. sort of.

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cu4whln 05-19-2015 08:25 PM

What I am starting with for the interior.... front seats :

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back seat:

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Miles: 63,000 or so.

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Notice the rear bumper.. it IS a 3 pc, but somebody painted it black? Darn it. Need a chrome rear bumper as well .....

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