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Manual and Electric Tailgates are Different, and How I Discovered This

Contributed By: Joe Sego

Right after buying my 79 Cherokee Chief I determined it could use
a new or different tailgate.  The rear window was missing, so was the
electric motor and the gate was very rusty. I decided to go down the 
easy path and just replace the entire tailgate.  

A day long search of local junk yards produced nothing but tired feet.
FSJ's are just not plentiful in Indianapolis.  Apparently GM has 
cornered the 4x4 market in Indy.  I then took the search to the Internet
and the Info Superhighway blah-blah-blah.  I located another 79 Cherokee
that was being "being parted-out" at Brian's 4x4 Parts in CT.  

***NOTE***  The following problems are not a reflection of Brian's 4x4***

A telephone call to Brian and he told me  he indeed had a complete tailgate
and it had the manual window (a crank to roll up the window instead of the
electric motor) This was fine by me.  Sounded like a lot fewer problems
down the road.  

After receiving the tailgate I was excited about getting it installed
asap.  (remember I had no rear window!) We took the old gate off the Chief
and began installing the new gate.  All hinge holes etc. lined up perfectly.
When I went to shut the gate it would not latch, matter of fact it was
like 2 inches from even closing.  Then I noticed the gate "catches" were
different.  Both on the Cherokee and on the new tailgate.  Brian had
sent the body mounted  "catches" with the gate so a quick swap would solve
the problem.....wrong, they were not interchangeable. Sooo, I decided to
take the gate mounted "catches" off the old gate and use them on the new one,
wrong....all mounting holes are different.  

It should be noted that without the gate catches the tailgate would close
perfectly, however it had nothing to keep it closed.  After further 
examinations I came to the conclusion that a electric gate and a manual
gate are *not* interchangeable.  I have no idea why they aren't!  The only
difference in the Cherokee's were:

Mine is a 79 Cherokee Chief two door with electric window
The other was a 79 Cherokee with four doors and a manual window

Go figure. To visually look at both gates they are identical, but there
are enough differences in bolt locations etc to make them incompatible.
After much discussion about this on the FSJ list group, no one was
aware of any differences, neither are the service manuals! 

Don't even ask how I solved the problem, let's just say I used some
"shade-tree mechanics" to make the darn thing stay shut.  I would also
assume you may encounter the same problem on a Wagoneer tailgate swap as
well.      
 
Joe Sego 

jsego@ai2a.net

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