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I am working on the high steer. I am completely stalled by the lack of a ball joint install/remove kit, and too broke to buy or rent one :/[/quot
Man, if I had one I'd send it to you but alas I do not...I'm eager for you to get this thing runnin again. I think mine will be followin in your footsteps someday  |
Yeah, got some other things I can do of course. Tank is all rehabbed, and ready to bolt in and plumb. Pertronix install, some wiring..dang heat has been killer lately. I also need to redo the bearings in the front D44 and get pads, and rebuild the selectable hubs. Hopefully we'll have a long fall this year 
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Well..after finally getting my high steer set up with the right lift knuckles and .250 wall dom steering link to the steering box..I've come to the sad conclusion that you cannot do a SOA HD44 swap with 'stockish' height springs by any means. You would need springs made with at least 4" of lift, and with very thick spring leaves, but only a few (certainly not the 6-9 that are in stock packs). SO...I've basically decided to completely remove the 2" springs and post mounts, and salvage spring hangers from a 77 frame I have out back, and put those on hanger under frame. I *think* I won't have any problems with the steering box I swapped in there. I have both that frame, and front frame section cut off a 82 J10 with hangers on that, that I can literally place side to side with the 68 to get proper alignment. All I have to do is get a welder rig over here. This will net me a bit more lift than I planned for, but I have *plenty* of front 2.5" FSJ spring packs here. Any $$ involved (paying a welder) would be less than buying Hellcreek or Alcan 2" lift springs, and still dealing with the finishing fab trying to work around the post mount width. And obviously much better springs for weight. It's a just a big decision right now to cut those posts off, but I think it's the best idea.
Pretty sure this is what Tad did with his, right Tad?
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08-30-2011, 02:15 PM
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08-30-2011, 03:42 PM
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wow, now ya did it... 
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Vintage tin
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08-30-2011, 04:30 PM
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Yeah, I just read through this thread, again, for about the fifth time.
I've been eyeing my 14-bolt/10-bolt combo out of a chev 3/4 ton for awhile, and thinking about all the work involved in the swap. Next year ...
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08-30-2011, 07:06 PM
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yeah...sometimes you gotta give yourself a kick in the rear and just doo eeet.
Sere: I can't wait to fire it
Hummer: 10bolt is the same as a normal D44, and the 14bolt is only good for wheeling with 37" tires or more due to clearance. Now the 14bolt with a pinion guard and a shave, and a D60 or HD44 SOA with chromoly shafts would be good for some skinny 37"s all day long..also the 14B requires a SUF, our frames are far wider than any other manufacturer, learned all that when looking. Jeep D60 is perfect  I love these huge fat Swampers but it won't be driveable for long with them, likely will end up with a set of Mil Sup 36/37, or if I'm lucky a real set of tires that size. They come up all the time for sale on the Colorado4x4 forum, just gotta have the cash and gas and good timing...
anyways, yanked out a piece of frame from a 82 J10, and found enough common reference points to proceed. Front shackle mount will stick out a hair, rear one will be fine. I have yards of frame sections, boxed and unboxed, so I may start cutting up some reinforcement plates and spacers and doodads and start hunting down a welder guy. Got one with a genny and a big lincoln on a trailer that said he'd come over anytime, let's hope that's true
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08-30-2011, 07:08 PM
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ps..that little rivet sticking out is the sole remaining damage from the cow I hit long ago
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Pretty sure this is what Tad did with his, right Tad?
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Yes.
Too bad the frame was rusted out, but it lives on as parts in CA.
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08-31-2011, 08:28 AM
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how I'm lining things up. Differences between a 68 J3000 frame and a 82 J10 SWB frame are minimal in the front. Some holes are the same but not many. The threaded bumper bracket holes are identical (circled in red)
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basically I'm using the center of the rad support and the center of those threaded holes as base points since the front clips are the same 63-91
Newer shock towers will bolt on with two of the holes for proper sweep back positioning. 3rd hole will need to be drilled or likely just a weld at the bottom.
The recessed areas on the 82 are the holes that Tad uses for the steering brace IIRC, as one can see, that doesn't exist on a first gen frame.
It looks like GEN2 motor mount arms for I6/360/401 years would bolt in fine with the addition of one hole drilled.
Brake line brackets and bumpstops would have to be added as well, all in different spots.
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09-16-2011, 09:41 AM
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Spring hangers are sitting in a box and waiting for these stupid El Nino rains to give me a break Thanks Tad!
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Anytime.
Hollar if you need the numbers from my hanger placement.
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10-12-2011, 03:32 PM
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Right so..got the gas tank hung, and finally tackled the 'too short clutch rod' problem..12.05 in parts and an hour of puttering around got me a 'new' clutch rod that fits, is adjustable, and have enough left over to make more if I had too for it. It's pretty solid but if it bends I'll just buy steel rod and thread it, and consider this a mockup.
whether from wear or by design, the ball at the pedal is a bit larger. Drilled out the couplers, wangled the drill bit around to hog em out, finished with a dremel stone, and squirted some gun oil in there. Works nice, just need to set the final angle and set up the pedal.
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ditto!
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Oh yeah, keep plinking away at it. Hung the side skirting on one side again to try and visualize what I'm going to to. It's going to need custom rear fenders, that's for sure..the OEMs look stupid with huge tires. And with the spring going SUF I will need to raise the rear some..got 3" with Tad perches and 2" tapered blocks sitting on my bench. I could fire it any time soon but would like it off jackstands first
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hangers are burned in nice!!! Will post up front end re-install and praying my math was right..
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So...I totally forgot that I needed a GM ubolt plate..yes they they different than anything Jeep offered. I used a FSJ spring bolt plate on the drivers side, but the pass side needed something custom...
3/4" steel...I have a lot of this stuff. What I don't have is a bandsaw and a drill press, so forming this by hand (sawzall, 6.5amp 1/2" drill, and 4" makita grinder, and a collection of machinist drills meant for a milling machine). The holes are actually correct spacing, the pad is not square (doesn't matter either really).
2 more to go...this is the wide side for the pumpkin, on a GM HD44 the other ubolt goes over the tube.
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Quite a few hours shaping that slab of steel plate! The plate for the other side is a SUA pad turned sideways, I still have to add a bevel for the reversed direction the spring will now flex. I put a nice bevel on this one. On the GM HD44, it uses one very wide ubolt for the cast section, and one thin one that slips over the tube. IIRC, on a jeep D44, both pumpkin mount ubolts are wider.
Now I need a drop pitman arm, and I can finish up the steering. If anyone wants to buy my un-used hellcreek 2" plates, there's a post in For Sale.
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With this progress will she be at Ouray this year?
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