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Old 12-15-2012, 10:02 PM
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Is this bumper worth the penny?

I have no idea what kind of bumper this is but the owner says it came off of an 88 wagoneer. Mine is a 91, and i am definitely interested in it. The bumper has an 8000lb winch inside that supposedly works. Worth $500? or should i just keep my eye out for something better?

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Old 12-15-2012, 10:04 PM
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A pic would help. What kind of winch is it?
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:21 PM
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Bumper Picture

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Old 12-15-2012, 10:32 PM
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The winch is a ramsey.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:51 PM
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Guess it depends on how bad you need/want it. I'm not a Ramsey elec winch fan at all but many folks are. Had a brand new 8000 lb hidden Ramsey on a new 1980 F250 company truck. The thing ate so many solenoids I didn't even finish the field season before I got fed up and put a vertical Warn winch and bumper on the truck. The Ramsey hidden winch got further hidden in the back of the company warehouse. My one,only and sworn last experience with a Ramsey elec winch.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:54 AM
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If I were an IT nerd or banker of some sort, as opposed to the fabricator I am, I would find that to be worth $500.

I'm halfway through a bumper build and with $140 in raw stock invested coupled with 5 hours or so of labor. Figure fabricator labor costs $60-80/hr. Granted, mine will be exactly what I want but I have the skills to do it. I also have a Warn I've been sitting on so long I don't even remember what I traded for it.

In short, I think you'll be looking for an awful long time to do better with $500 if a combo bumper/deer chaser/winch is what you're after.

I've never run a Ramsey winch, but I remember when they were #2, ahead of mile marker electrics and right behind Warn. I've never considered them service duty but I have seen an 8000# Ramsey pull a cabin off it's foundation and 100 yards (about 50 feet at a time) through over grown blackberry bushes out of the woods without burning up.
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:50 AM
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Without seeing it I don't know that it's a "smokin' deal", but it doesn't seem like a ripoff. If it was me, and I could talk the price down, I would most likely buy it.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:19 AM
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Ill buy it for 500, right now... Who wants to sell it to me?
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:09 AM
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It kinda looks like one of the factory-installed warn winch bumpers with one of the factory brush guards attached? Very interesting.

I second what Redone said.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:15 AM
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If I were an IT nerd or banker of some sort, as opposed to the fabricator I am, I would find that to be worth $500.

I'm halfway through a bumper build and with $140 in raw stock invested coupled with 5 hours or so of labor. Figure fabricator labor costs $60-80/hr. Granted, mine will be exactly what I want but I have the skills to do it. I also have a Warn I've been sitting on so long I don't even remember what I traded for it.

In short, I think you'll be looking for an awful long time to do better with $500 if a combo bumper/deer chaser/winch is what you're after.

I've never run a Ramsey winch, but I remember when they were #2, ahead of mile marker electrics and right behind Warn. I've never considered them service duty but I have seen an 8000# Ramsey pull a cabin off it's foundation and 100 yards (about 50 feet at a time) through over grown blackberry bushes out of the woods without burning up.

It definitely looks like factory. I agree, see if he will come down on price. $400 maybe?
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:49 AM
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hard to tell from the pic, but looks like it has potential
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:27 AM
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Different strokes right?

I am a big Ramsey fan. 8k would require a snatch block to make it work well & if you buried it to the axles it wouldn't get you out by itself. Ramsey is one of the best. I have a Ramsey 12k hidden & it rocks & has never let me down. Mine axle deep sitting on the frame still takes a little finess to work out. How they are maintained & attention to duty cycle are important. That is the same with all winches. The picture is worthless for determining value on the rest of the package. It doesn't matter what I am or what I can do. You could not buy everything to build this used for that price.
It would be nice to get it for less but what is worth to you is the point. maintained & kept in the condition it's in it should always be worth that.
Storebought usually always has better resell than homemade.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:27 PM
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If I had the money I would buy it for my j20 right now if it was wide enough!!! I'm gonna make my current bumper for my j20 into a winch bumper but if I found one of those in my price range I would definitely get it!!!
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:18 PM
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Bought the bumper!

After taking the wagon on a 150 mile round trip throught the mountians of Helena MT i have got the bumper in my garage. It looks dirty but in great shape. Dont be too hard on my picture. Jeep leaks powersteering and there is a possibility that my pie pans are on wrong......
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:14 PM
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Digging the old school Ramsey sticker, keep it if you can!
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:24 PM
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:21 PM
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I think you got a decent deal. Home made bumpers are fine, but production Ramsey bumpers look very nice and are well made.

And finding any winch bumper for a FSJ is fairly hard. Never mind a chrome one.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:52 AM
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Nice...I like it!
Reminds me of the bumper that was on my '77 Cherokee.
(That one was just painted black though, and the winch wasn't hiding.)

Decent price too!
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