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Old 09-18-2007, 11:00 AM
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38.5" Tsls and minimal lift!

Ok, I have started working on my 78 cherokee now.
I swapped the front WT fenders for stock M715 fenders.
There was a little bit of work to be done to get them to bolt on, mainly clearancing where the flare came down on the front.
I considered using the stock M715 front pieces as well, but I didn't want to mess around with the radiator supports. Plus I would have to move around all the AC stuff as well.

Here is how I got it.


And here is the M715 fender on, no other mods (still stock lift, but springs are in good condition).


And here is one with the new tire in there.


In this last picture you can barely see the remaining metal on the valance in front of the tire. The m715 front didn't have this, it has a nice cutout specifically for larger tires to clearance while turning.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:08 AM
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Day two, started working on the rear fenders.
I started with the one that was rusted out (only real rust on this Jeep!).

I basically cut the flare off, then inside the wheelwell I cut the inner fender about 1" out from the seam.
After that I had to match the outside body panel to the shape of the inner wheel well. I marked my lines on the inside where the curve went, then I cut off the body in an arc about 1" lower then the line.
After that I took the cutoff wheel and started cutting slots upward until I got to the line. About 1/2" apart. Nothing measured, just started cutting.
After that, I started bending these tabs up until I was matching the shape of the inner. I had to cut some more in some spots, but it went fairly well as long as I took my time.
I made a cut of some thinner metal to fill in this space for now. It sticks out past the body for now, but I will trim that later on when I put on the heavier metal flares.
I will try and match the front for stickout, but I am not 100% on that part yet.

The rear is still up on stands, so it won't have this much clearance. But it looks good so far.

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Old 09-18-2007, 11:21 AM
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that looks great. i can't wait to see what it looks like once its all done and painted.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:38 AM
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Still haven't decided on paint yet.
I was originally leaning towards a VERY dark OD green.
But I might end up with a flat or semi gloss black as well.
Never know until it's done though.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:42 PM
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Hammer, man, it looks good.

That thing is begging for some OD paint.

Keep the pics coming!
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:53 PM
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I will get more pictures after I finish that rear fender.
Doing the lift will take more effort because I have to take it OFF the choptop first. So it's basically like doing a lift on TWO vehicles at once
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:56 PM
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Driver side rear will be a little different because there is the gas line vent that goes up through there.
Anyone know what kind of problems there are moving that?
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:29 PM
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That looks cool...

I'd think you could make the driver's side match, just ditch the hard part of the vent line and run a flexible rubber vent from the tank all the way up around the new wheel well (just use rubber grommets to keep it from cutting where you bring it through the sheetmetal).

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Old 09-18-2007, 04:36 PM
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I plan on doing something similiar to just that. Just haven't mapped out exactly where I will put it.
I know I don't want it anywhere NEAR the rear tire though. They fill those wheel wells up, and I don't want to take any chances tearing that vent line up.
Any way to make that vent 'better' ?
This thing fills up slow enough at the gas station!
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:38 PM
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I few more pictures showing how I did the rear fenders.







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Old 09-18-2007, 11:16 PM
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You do plan on lifting it though right? At least a 4 or 6" lift to allow for some wheel travel.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:34 PM
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About 4" lift. That part is next after getting the fenders done. I have to take the lift off my choptop before I can put it on the chero.

I plan on using the absolute minimum lift possible. I will sacrafice some uptravel to keep my COG as low as possible.
If this isn't enough, then I will use 6" when I go 1 tons.
If I need to, I will get some narrow track fenders and make my own that resemble the M715 fenders, but with more clearance.
I would prefer to run flat springs when I swap over to 1 tons. Better flex, softer ride, and lower COG.
But only time, and some running time on these tires, will tell how much tire and how little lift I can get away with.

Baja is running even bigger tires. He clearanced his front fenders more then the M715 fenders allow. But is only running 4" lift.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:08 PM
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I got a little work done on it this weekend.
Finished the other rear fender. And took it out to see what the clearances are.
I obviously need some lift. But it doesn't do too bad with zero lift.
Too bad the front springs on the choptop are NOT lift springs (like I had thought they were). So now I need some front lift springs.


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The trimming looks perfect.. Nice work...
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:34 PM
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Thanks.
I have a little more fine turing on the rear, but I won't do that part until I get the metal in for the flares.
Now I just need to lift the front some and I will be set.
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:49 PM
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Ok, got a set of 4" front springs (thanks Al!)

For now, I made brackets to lower the front brake lines.
I will be ordering some new stainless brake lines soon.

The rear WOULD have been done today but I couldn't find anyplace local that had the u-bolts I needed. I will get u-bolts tomorrow, and have the rear lifted in the next couple days.
I should also finally be getting the metal I need to finish the rear flares.

Anyways, a couple pictures.
I flexed it up, but I was hitting in the rear before I could fully flex the front. No pictures of that though.

I had a little rubbing on the bottom of the fender by the cab, I 'clearanced' that with a BFH and all is well!
I can turn the steering wheel from lock to lock and still have room!



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Old 10-03-2007, 08:56 PM
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Too bad the front springs on the choptop are NOT lift springs (like I had thought they were). So now I need some front lift springs.

ROFL. Glenn once had 2" alcans on the front of that choptop frame, was that what you thought was still on it? if so, they are sitting in my garage, hehe. btw- those are the same alcans that once sat under Whitefoot (RIP), if you remember andrew's old rig.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:04 PM
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ACK!
And yeah, I was vaguely thinking those to be the springs I had.
I DO have the shocks from Whitefoot though
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:09 PM
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Nice work, looks good. I had been thinking of the same idea for my Chero since the rear fenders are pretty rusted out, but I started to change my mind. Seeing how well yours is looking makes me think it's still is the best idea, perhaps I'll get to it after I finally have the thing on the road. keep up the good work.
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its looking bad-***!

it was good meeting you ed, wish i could have stayed longer to chat but all the family was in town for the old mans b-day. can't wait to see more progress!

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