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12-06-2006, 10:30 PM
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totm :) super wagoneer
like the topic of the month idea! I'm obsessed with super wagoneers. its a problem  . there are three in my driveway as we speak, and when I get any extra cash, that's where it goes. so, questions nobody knows;
how many were made (ive heard between 700 and 3900 still registered to date). I've never seen one in person til I got my first, haven't seen one I haven't bought since . who has one here? what do you know? etc. etc. etc....
I've wanted one since I saw ken weatherall's in a magazine. that's gotta be my favorite wag of all times (nice to see where that truck is going lately too!). just can't get enough of em! you? |
12-06-2006, 11:31 PM
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YOU HAVE 3 F---G SUPERS IN YOUR DRIVEWAY???
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1966 Super Wagoneer
350SBC. 2BBl. Th700R4. NP-208. Detroits. 4.27s. 4core. 4Discs. PS,PB,AC,CC,Cassette.
(Soon to be TBI)
1975 Custom Wagoneer
350SBC. TBI. Th400 FT-QT. Opens. 3.54s. 3core. PS,PB,AC,CC,CD.
(Soon to be TH700R4)
"If it aint leaking, it's empty!"
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12-06-2006, 11:42 PM
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Super Wag
Yes, I dont know what's up with these rigs. I purchased a 71 J4000 and it came with a lot of extra parts. As I was restoring-- and still am.... found the I have an entire Super Wagoneer interior- black and in mint condition/ like new that is now installed in this truck.
It looks pretty cool;
Low back seats
Seat belts
Door panels
Center console
Tilt wheel
Dash
In Dash AC, not installed as I need heat not AC in CT.
Other odds and ends.
Now I would have never parted this car, nor would the previous owner, but this Super with 15K original miles sat in a junk yard- un-touched for many years. Exterior was totalled, but interior was like new. Since it was not a Jeep yard it just kinda sat there in the back until it was found.
Now it is part of my J4000 restoration which has over $25K invested so in the end the parts will live on. Maybe I wll call it a "Super J" when im done.
Anyway now that I know and have learned more about the Super I have my eye on another barn yard wreck-- would be a major restoration project, but again this one's interior is mint- body has some rust and engine is siezed. All the rims/wheels knock off's are there, emblems and most original parts. Also may need two to make one good one-- or at least that is what I would tell my wife 
Anyway I see a real Super in my garage one of these days. If you find one that you dont like let me know as I know where I can find some space.... of couse after i finish the new old j2000 that I just got for an early x-mas gift.
By the way used to live in PDX and think it's a great place. Let me know if you find an extra one.
Regards, Blake
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12-06-2006, 11:54 PM
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Anyway, 1200 is the number Iv seen the most that came off the line during 66 67 68. Mine is the 66th 327v8 wagoneer frame to come down the line for the 66 model year. So even if it wasnt a Super, it would still be one of the oldest 327 Wags built.
Iv only seen one other Super that had an older VIN, but it was in parts in So cal, and was white. Iv seen 3 Empire Blues, 4 Glacier Whites but only 2 Indian Ceramics (mine and one in a yard in WA, desolving into the ground). But Im only counting 327 SWs.
Then there is this one:
This the the 4th Iv seen
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1966 Super Wagoneer
350SBC. 2BBl. Th700R4. NP-208. Detroits. 4.27s. 4core. 4Discs. PS,PB,AC,CC,Cassette.
(Soon to be TBI)
1975 Custom Wagoneer
350SBC. TBI. Th400 FT-QT. Opens. 3.54s. 3core. PS,PB,AC,CC,CD.
(Soon to be TH700R4)
"If it aint leaking, it's empty!"
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12-07-2006, 01:01 AM
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blake, very cool. I'm working with a vendor to recreate the extruded aluminum right now, and my #1 idea is to make a j-truck trim. how cool would that be!
I will post pics asap( I'm not usualy home during daylight exept on weekends this time of year).
ken, where is that one? I it for sale? what shape is the interior?
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12-07-2006, 01:20 AM
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My buddy Milt had one in TX that he choped up for parts, must have been in bad shape but I would bet he still has some of the parts off of it for sale.This is the one in jp magazine a few monthes ago.give him a call he is a great guy and wont mind talking jeeps or selling parts he owns SW Jeep sales in Bono TX. 817-556-0525.Dont have a Email address for him or would have put that.
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12-07-2006, 05:53 AM
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Let's see now...we have one owner with 3 Supers..... and we may drum up 3 more owners of 1 each. 
These babies are rare indeed.
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12-07-2006, 06:04 AM
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My buddy Milt had one in TX that he choped up for parts, must have been in bad shape but I would bet he still has some of the parts off of it for sale.This is the one in jp magazine a few monthes ago.give him a call he is a great guy and wont mind talking jeeps or selling parts he owns SW Jeep sales in Bono TX. 817-556-0525.Dont have a Email address for him or would have put that.
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It's still there, pretty well stripped down. It has a swing away tire carrier on the back which I challenge anyone to go get... there is a spare on it with ~300 bees living in it. I slammed the front door and thought "now why is this hulk making noise..." |
12-07-2006, 07:34 AM
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The guy I bought my winch bumper from used to have one (he never mentioned the year, only that it had a 327), but he had parted it out several years ago. Unfortunetely he didn't have much of the hard to find parts left. Though he did have the hubcaps and a few bits of trim.
He also has a dually and a 2wd panel delivery.
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12-07-2006, 07:53 AM
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promise not to hurt me...
don't hurt me for my ignorance, but what is a super wagoneer exactly? i thought they were the IFS waggys, but the photo of the white one posted above has leaf springs upfront, so that can't be right. anyone mind filling me in? thanks.....
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12-07-2006, 08:11 AM
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don't hurt me for my ignorance, but what is a super wagoneer exactly? i thought they were the IFS waggys, but the photo of the white one posted above has leaf springs upfront, so that can't be right. anyone mind filling me in? thanks.....
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They were a special trim package wagoneer, that happend to have a high compression 4 barrel Kaiser/AMC 327 lurking under the hood. Wag guys want em for the trim, 327 owners want the 4 barrel intake (got one) The rest is pretty well covered in posts above.
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12-07-2006, 08:18 AM
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don't hurt me for my ignorance, but what is a super wagoneer exactly? i thought they were the IFS waggys, but the photo of the white one posted above has leaf springs upfront, so that can't be right. anyone mind filling me in? thanks.....
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They can RUST METAL with amazing ease !!!
LEAK more OIL than an Exxon oil tanker !!!
get BETTER MILEAGE than a Sherman tank !!!
It's a Dodge,  no, It's an International, it's, it's......
SUPER WAGONEER !!
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12-07-2006, 08:27 AM
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There's a Super in a junkyard in Jersey that's very rusted out. It's pretty complete though as far as interior and exterior trim goes and yes, the console is still in it. The motor is there but I don't remember how complete. It has to have been there for at least 20 yrs. I got kicked out for taking pictures of it and other fsj's he has. I'll go back soon and see if he want's to sell anything. Maybe he'll be in a Christmassy mood and let me back in...
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1980 Honcho Sportside w/37's, 351c, 14" lift, D44high pinion w/Aussie, crossover steering, 14b w/detroit, np435, 205, 5.13's, 4whl discs, hb brakes, OBAir, rusted out cab,
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12-07-2006, 11:14 AM
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Yes ditto on the pics for the super waggy and from blakeusa on the interior.
I dont own one but the console from one lives in my truck. If I had the whole interior, id want the "super" emblem to attach to the truck. I would love to have one to restore.
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12-07-2006, 11:28 AM
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Mine was delivered this morning. I meant to write the vin down before I left for work but I forgot. It is rough - sitting in the boneyard since 85. Most of the trim and badges are present.
I would love to have one as a DD.
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12-07-2006, 11:55 AM
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jeeptopless, did you have those hood emblems? still interested! thanks
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12-07-2006, 02:40 PM
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Unfortunately, no, they are not there. 2 of 3 badges that appear to be missing as well as the key cover on the tailgate. Hopefully they will turn up in the 2 feet of leaves and garbage inside. That's where I found the clock.
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12-07-2006, 09:28 PM
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There's a Super in a junkyard in Jersey that's very rusted out. It's pretty complete though as far as interior and exterior trim goes and yes, the console is still in it. The motor is there but I don't remember how complete. It has to have been there for at least 20 yrs. I got kicked out for taking pictures of it and other fsj's he has. I'll go back soon and see if he want's to sell anything. Maybe he'll be in a Christmassy mood and let me back in...JR
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Well if he does let you in and you can get parts, lets us know, we will start bidding on them.
I look mostly for the 'gunsights' on the hood, and the console.
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1966 Super Wagoneer
350SBC. 2BBl. Th700R4. NP-208. Detroits. 4.27s. 4core. 4Discs. PS,PB,AC,CC,Cassette.
(Soon to be TBI)
1975 Custom Wagoneer
350SBC. TBI. Th400 FT-QT. Opens. 3.54s. 3core. PS,PB,AC,CC,CD.
(Soon to be TH700R4)
"If it aint leaking, it's empty!"
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12-07-2006, 09:33 PM
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Kenall, are those "deer whistle" ornaments on either side of the hood above the fenders original....?
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Yes.
The 'gunsights' SEEM to be exclusive to the 327 SWs, as well as the 'knockoff' wheel covers. Rich Truesdales 68 has neither.
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1966 Super Wagoneer
350SBC. 2BBl. Th700R4. NP-208. Detroits. 4.27s. 4core. 4Discs. PS,PB,AC,CC,Cassette.
(Soon to be TBI)
1975 Custom Wagoneer
350SBC. TBI. Th400 FT-QT. Opens. 3.54s. 3core. PS,PB,AC,CC,CD.
(Soon to be TH700R4)
"If it aint leaking, it's empty!"
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12-07-2006, 09:36 PM
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I would love to have one as a DD.
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While this is admirable, I would convert to disc brakes and a 30 spline rear axle, and leave all else the same. I can (and have) deal with leaky seals, but not with 11x2 front drum brakes
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1966 Super Wagoneer
350SBC. 2BBl. Th700R4. NP-208. Detroits. 4.27s. 4core. 4Discs. PS,PB,AC,CC,Cassette.
(Soon to be TBI)
1975 Custom Wagoneer
350SBC. TBI. Th400 FT-QT. Opens. 3.54s. 3core. PS,PB,AC,CC,CD.
(Soon to be TH700R4)
"If it aint leaking, it's empty!"
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