BRUTUS lift buildup

[BRUTUS]

This is my first ongoing buildup type thread so bear with me. This project has been in the works for over a year now because I have been too busy with other things. I have an ongoing page dedicated to the lift at this address:

http://www.fsjbrutus.com/jeep/lift

Here is the latest pic from this weekend:



Front: Dana 60 Pro Rock, 4.56 gears, ARB locker, 1410 joints all around, 35 spline inners and outers, warn hubs, 14" disc brakes, crossover high steer (with tires and wheels... weight = 770lb), Black powdercoat

Rear: 14FF 4.56 gears, open, 1350 input, standard shafts, shaved 1", 13" disk brakes, black rattle can (soon)

Tires: 38.5 x 16 x 16.5 TSL Super Swampers.

I got some of the funniest looks from people driving down my street... it was great. Now I just need to paint the rear diff and install. Eventually the rear will get an ARB locker. Enjoy!

EDIT: I updated all the images so that they will work again once my new site is fully up and running. I hate the "x's" so much!

[KaiserMan]

Very nice. What are the 14" front disc's from?

[Gambler68]

..but you still haven't fixed your tailgate...or the lightning rod behind the cab

wow man..that's awesome. just fraggin' awesome!

[BRUTUS]

Originally Posted by KaiserMan

Very nice. What are the 14" front disc's from?

That is how they came from Dynatrak. I told them that I wanted the biggest brake that would fit in a 16.5 rim and that is what I got. I haven't actually measured them but will tonight. I know they fill the 16.5 rim much more than the rear disks do.

EDIT: I measured both disks and I have 13" rotors all around.

[BRUTUS]

Originally Posted by Gambler68

..but you still haven't fixed your tailgate...or the lightning rod behind the cab

wow man..that's awesome. just fraggin' awesome!

What's wrong with my lightning rod? You are referring to my hi lift? Or my CB antenna? I will get a new CB antenna top the next time I go to the CB shop... this one is going to get some red lock tight on the threads! If it breaks off that is one thing... but unthreading... un-acceptable.

As far as my tailgate goes, I am putting a laundry list of things to weld for my buddy with a mobile welding rig. I have never welded anything and don't want to learn on my truck with suspension componants! Here is the list so far:

1) weld seam on all four front stock hangers to re-inforce the rivets
2) re-locate the front spring perches
3) weld rear spring hangers to frame
4) box frame areas where hangers are
5) weld tab on bed for tailgate
6) weld 3/16 keystock around door hinges for easy re-alignment of doors after removal
7) weld up exposed bolt threads from the 14 bolt shave job

[rampagefsj]

Kewl beans ! I'm gonna love seeing this go together. I'd bet that the neighbors are thinking that in a while, a frame will appear on the axles, then engine, tranny, T-case, ec. .

[BRUTUS]

Originally Posted by rampagefsj

Kewl beans ! I'm gonna love seeing this go together. I'd bet that the neighbors are thinking that in a while, a frame will appear on the axles, then engine, tranny, T-case, ec. .

Actually, most of the work they were hidden in the garage so the neighbors only knew if they got the garage tour. This was their first day on the lawn! Most of the people that drove by weren't my neighbors. They have seen my trannys and tcase (SM465, NV4500, and NP205) though as they were just inside the garage door... I doubt they will say anything though as I am lifting my truck at a buddys shop with all the facilities.

Did you ever get those decals from the front quarters for me?

[Gambler68]

well..all that time riding shotgun led to various thoughts of gigantic bolts of lightning hitting that hunk of steel up there in the air (the lift). Sad about losing the firestick though.

that's alot of welding! hope he's a good buddy

I'm building a gate and a fence to hide my junk..you can see it from the 'highway' 2000' feet away.Little Jtrucks peeking up through the grass...

[BRUTUS]

Originally Posted by Gambler68

well..all that time riding shotgun led to various thoughts of gigantic bolts of lightning hitting that hunk of steel up there in the air (the lift). Sad about losing the firestick though.

that's alot of welding! hope he's a good buddy

I'm building a gate and a fence to hide my junk..you can see it from the 'highway' 2000' feet away.Little Jtrucks peeking up through the grass...

He is fine with it. That is what he does for a living... a case of bud light and $20... it's all good.

I am not all that worried because my tires offer up quite a bit of resistance to ground. Especially with bias ply TSL's! Lightning wise.. the trees are much better targets than my lightning rod. I have a couple of friends have been struck directly by lightning and they survived. So being in my truck... the lightning doesn't bother me one bit.

[FSJ Guy]

Jason, I bet your neighbors LOVE you!!!!

RE Lightning, it's the Faraday Effect that saves you in a closed metal-bodied car. It has NOTHING to do with the tires. Inside a metal cage, q (the electrical charge) is always the SAME in any space inside the cage, therefore, there is no electrical DIFFERENCE, and therefore no flow of electricity. Stick your hand outside the window and now you're talkin' crispy critter.

Makes me think I should add some wire mesh to my roll cage on the 715.....

[Tad]

Looks very nice.

[BRUTUS]

Originally Posted by FSJ Guy

Jason, I bet your neighbors LOVE you!!!!

RE Lightning, it's the Faraday Effect that saves you in a closed metal-bodied car. It has NOTHING to do with the tires. Inside a metal cage, q (the electrical charge) is always the SAME in any space inside the cage, therefore, there is no electrical DIFFERENCE, and therefore no flow of electricity. Stick your hand outside the window and now you're talkin' crispy critter.

Makes me think I should add some wire mesh to my roll cage on the 715.....

Ethan.. you are smoking the ROCK! You better bring some to the next M&G!

In physics, the Faraday effect or Faraday rotation is a magneto-optical phenomenon, or an interaction between light and a magnetic field. The rotation of the plane of polarization is proportional to the intensity of the component of the magnetic field in the direction of the beam of light.
The Faraday effect, a type of magneto-optic effect, discovered by Michael Faraday in 1845, was the first experimental evidence that light and magnetism are related. The theoretical basis for that relation, now called electromagnetic radiation, was developed by James Clerk Maxwell in the 1860's and 1870's. This effect occurs in most optically transparent dielectric materials (including liquids) when they are subject to strong magnetic fields. - Wikipedia

For me personally, none of even sounds relevent!

The way I see it... lightning is an electrical discharge when enough of a differential is built up between the <-> charge clouds and the <+> charge ground in the presense of an electrical conducting medium (such as rain droplets). Lightning chooses the path of least resistance... trees are predominatly water... humans are predominatly water... ie less resistance than going to the ground through the rain droplets outright. No matter what your vehicle is made of the cumulative resistance to ground (tires are the major factor) that your vehicle offers, prevents your vehicle from conducting <+> charge from ground to the highest point on the vehicle.

Have you ever heard of a vehicle getting hit by lightning? Have you ever heard of an airplane getting hit by lightning? I know a lot more people that have been struck than stories of cars or airplanes getting struck.

[Gambler68]

planes get tagged by lightning all the time!

and there was that dude here in CO that got hit by lightning on his motorcycle..and died. Although I assume it was from crashing into something..

I dunno man, where we were driving, and that crap coming down from 500' over our heads, I'd wanna be running around in one of those rubber Sumo suits..prolly would help with falling off a cliff too

edit: since this is your buildup thread, have a mod trim this stuff someday..it's gana be a gooood thread!

[BRUTUS]

Originally Posted by Gambler68

planes get tagged by lightning all the time!

and there was that dude here in CO that got hit by lightning on his motorcycle..and died. Although I assume it was from crashing into something..

I dunno man, where we were driving, and that crap coming down from 500' over our heads, I'd wanna be running around in one of those rubber Sumo suits..prolly would help with falling off a cliff too

edit: since this is your buildup thread, have a mod trim this stuff someday..it's gana be a gooood thread!

Well.. planes get hit or cars for that matter.. what I am saying is that it doesn't DO anything to the plane/car or its occupants when they get hit. I can also see a motorcycle driving in the rain where the raindrops conduct from bike to ground better than raindrops themselves. When Brutus has 10" of lift... I don't see that being an issue.

I am not worried about it for a buildup thread. That is what I have the webpage for. NO WORRIES.

[Brad W.]

Looking good, I only have some small things to add.

1) use blue lock-tite, not red. Red has to be heated to remove, blue snaps when tightened then loosened repeatedly.

2)I wouldn't advise welding metal around the door hinges, just make some marks with a scribe. If you weld it up, you will have no adjustment if you ever tweak or replace a hinge or door.

[Brad W.]

BTW... foil hats + lightning = bad mojo

[BRUTUS]

Originally Posted by Brad W.

1) use blue lock-tite, not red. Red has to be heated to remove, blue snaps when tightened then loosened repeatedly.

I really don't want it to be removed. It is a $5 piece that is part of a $35 antenna. I could easily rack up a bunch of $5 antenna tuners that would exceed the cost of a new antenna. I have loosened lots of stuff with red lock tite before without heat... just like about everything else, works about half as good as advertised. I am sure if you drenched the bolt in locktite it would be a different story but I only use 2 drops per bolt max.

Originally Posted by Brad W.

2)I wouldn't advise welding metal around the door hinges, just make some marks with a scribe. If you weld it up, you will have no adjustment if you ever tweak or replace a hinge or door.

I want the keyways to hold the door alignment. I also plan on making some half doors and I would modify the hinges on the half doors before modifying the keystock. Worst come to worst... I could always cut the keystocks off and be back at square 1.

[orangecherokee]

badass build. hopefully the ARB goes in before the maiden voyage. I'll admit I can't read all of this because I'm using the hotel's computer and trying to be polite. If you are then good you'll need it. Looks like a lot o' beef. More pics please!

[BRUTUS]

Yeah OC... the front ARB is already in. I have yet to purchase the rear ARB. I figure I will do the 1410 pinion shaft at the same time as the rear ARB. All AFTER I break the gears in. 4wd with the hubs unlocked should be alright on pavement to break in both front and rear gearsets at the same time right?

The website has more pics... they are all at 1600 x 1200 resolution.... thats why I didn't want to post them all in this thread.

Where are you at a hotel? And I thought you REBEL rock runners were REBELS! Let the other guests wait for access to the computer. They are only checking their email! Rebels = inconsiderate!

[Merc69]

Looks like a really good collection of parts. So get all that stuff to your buddys shop and get busy

Front gear break in... I was advised to leave the rig out of 4 wheel drive but drive the streets with the hubs locked for the break in. Seems to have worked for me.

Keep up the work and get that thing on the road. I may have to look you up next time I am out in Colorado Springs.