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04-14-2005, 01:01 PM
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ok so i bought this waggie for a tranny and axle doner for the wifes cj aney way i had planed on using the frame and floor for a buggie and well the body is in to good of shape to just send to the scraper and with out a tow rig at the moment we desided to just build it as i was going to only leve the body so here is the plan
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04-14-2005, 01:10 PM
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so the plann is
dodge dana 60
gm 14 bolt with a proto type mini spool
4-10s for now wating to see if spool holds up
amc 360
th400
dana 300
rancho 44044s up front with shackel reversal
stock fronts in the back with a shackel flip and springs mounted under frame
38 14.50 16.5 TSL SX
hummer bead locks
what ya think
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04-14-2005, 01:36 PM
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sounds cool, but are 4.10s going to be enough for 38s....i had 4.10s with 37s and it sucked...
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04-14-2005, 01:37 PM
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no but i dont want to trash my 5-38s if the spool dosent hold
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04-15-2005, 12:21 AM
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sounds like fun.. can't wait to see it
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04-15-2005, 12:28 AM
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Why are you going with the stock front springs in the back?
A lot of people have gone with the 56" chevy springs since they are longer with better flex.
Sounds like a nice build. I've got a bunch of those parts lying on the shop floor! hopefully yours will be running before mine.
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04-15-2005, 01:13 AM
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The stock rear springs are 56", which means better flex, why do you want to shorten them? Heck a lot of people switch to 62" chevy rear springs for better flex still. Although with the 14FF and the way the carrier is, even if the spool blew up, I dont think it could hurt the gears much, any pieces of size would stay inside the carrier center.
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04-15-2005, 01:24 AM
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I used the 62" Chevy springs and gained about 8 inches of wheel base on a spring over. The springs are flat and have flex...a lot of flex.
I am running 4.56 gears and it appears to be a good combination with the 38.5 SX's.
Why go the spool and question it? I have a Detroit, and 4.56 gears from a spare military 14 bolt. The price will be right.
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04-15-2005, 03:24 AM
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62" chevy (my bad)
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04-15-2005, 03:48 AM
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63" chevy actually but close enough 
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04-15-2005, 04:31 AM
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ok i have buitl toyota for the last 5 years and i realy realy hate 63" chevies i got more axel wrap with a little punie 4cyl and one could ever think i broke the main leaf 9 times i will never ever run them agin espicaly on some thing as heavy as a fsj
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04-15-2005, 04:32 AM
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and i realy dont want more wheel base in the PNW if your over about 125 total truck lingth you arent gonna make half the trails
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04-15-2005, 04:36 AM
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The reason for going a proto type spool is because I work for a company who is building and im the test dummies always have been there will be a lot of test parts on these rig in the up coming months it
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04-15-2005, 03:05 PM
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well a mini spool will hold up to 38's. i had one in a d44 with 5.38 gears and ran fine! so for a 14 bolt m/spool if you think you can blow one up,more power to ya! i have been pretty hard on my welded 14 bolt with 4.56's and aint even hurtin it one bit 
oh i also run 38"hawgs or 39"boggers and trust me you should save for at least 4.56's...4.10's kinda lag!
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04-15-2005, 03:38 PM
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That is just about the same combo I'm assembling, but with a different engine and transfer-case.
If you find an FSJ TF727, you can bolt up that D300 without any special adapters; may be just as easy as gutting the TH400 and getting the D300 adapter, if you're starting with the stock TH400/QT combination.
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04-15-2005, 04:49 PM
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i have 5-38 r/p sitting here and being this is the verry first one produced by the bompney i realy dont want to get it installed and 10 mins later have it fail so i will up grad my diffs to 5-38s after i have a few months on it and know it will hold its all part of rand d
i am using a th400 off a qtrack and i have about 6 of them now so ill run it till i run out of parts
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Quote:
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and with out a tow rig at the moment we desided to just build it
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sounds like a great plan for a trail rig,but i dont think id want to tow something with something with 38s and that soft of a suspension.
im not much for "multi-purpose" daily driver/trail/tow/etc. trucks,so build away,and get a more capable truck to haul it and/or the cj to the trail head
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04-16-2005, 03:56 AM
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oh i wont be towing with it i just half to leve the body for a bout 8 months till i can afford th etow rig i want
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