Thinking of lowering my COG.. even more

[River Beast]

I have been thinking long and hard on this...
most of you remember RB at 14" of lift and 39.5's and 38's with no trimming ( avatar).. ahhhh... the days of Ouray '02' but axle bend...and 1 tons go in.. and RBY stole my 4" Skyjacker suspension.. so it was back down on stockers, AAL's and Revolvers up front and Burb springs out back..then the W/T conversion gave me TONS of room...

I have enuf room to ditch my 36's for 39.5's... but do I REALLY want to? I dont think I do...

I can remove the AAL I added up front (2") and one of the leafs from the Burb packs out back and get a better COG and still have plenty of room for 37's.

PROS:

Lower COG- more stablity offroad
wont have to regear from 4.56's
softer ride

CONS:

wont be in the 39.5 club

how about some opions.... pic for visual help



[ July 03, 2004, 08:50 AM: Message edited by: River Beast ]

[Glenn_tx]

I would like it lower, unless you're going for a show truck kind of look.

I've used aal's on the front before, and couldn't wait to get rid of them.

[Elliott]

I'm ~87" of tread on the ground wide with my rig, won't be worryin' about COG. I'll offer to buy your front AAL ifn' you part with it and it's a longin'.

[gsmikie]

aaaaaaahhhhh all that work and i never see that grocery getter in mexico .......or off road ,.......why dont you solve the COG problem your having and put 4 space savers on that queen and lets go to mexico its not like you live far aweay from the border i will meet you at papa guyo's in esenada i will even bring a can of pledege for your wheels..............buddy

[River Beast]

She will never see 'south of the Border' Mike.... never

[River Beast]

Elliot.. I'll let you know on the AAL's

[rockjeep44]

Well if it was me I could never go smaller on tires. Every set of tires I've bought since I was 16 years old has progressively gotten bigger. Next stop...42s! Hehe.

[djmac]

pardon my changing the subject but i am really green when it comes to truck and off road suspensions and thought i would ask you guys for some advice: what do you look for in a suspension package for offroad? i use my j10 as a daily driver at times but it was bought to take to the dunes. those woops really hammer me and that truck. is there a package (shocks\springs) that will give you a decent road ride and handle the woops? it is pretty stiff right now with a 2 leaf rear with a 4" block and 6 leafs up front and giving me about a 4" lift. i am thinking about using my friends stock springs out of his 02 f-250 superduty although until i do more research i am not sure it they will fit or perform for me. any of your opinions would be appreciated.

[gsmikie]

Originally posted by River Beast:
She will never see 'south of the Border' Mike.... never

how about the devil's race track ????? death valley

[TexasJ10]

Go low. It solves most problems. My goal for the 82 j10 I am working on is that it will accomodate 37-40" tires with only 4" of lift and 1 ton axles. I am hoping fender modifications will take care of the rest. The hassle of driveline issues and rollover issues seems to favor moderate lift.

[robselina]

do it. it's a solid plan, it'll wheel better, drive better and I frankly think look better.....

[imported_Big Red]

Todd, look at it like this, do you want a great off roader or do you want "the looks"? I personally love my SOA and will not go any higher. If I am somewhere where I need more clearence, well I'll just turn around. Yea a huge truck is cool, but if it don't perform right, it ain't worth nothing. I say stay with what you got. Looks awesome!! Hey you can always throuogh some 10 inch blocks on it like the GE on Ebay!! HA! HA!

[Sambo]

gotta love a wt! i have soa,rear shackles reversal and custom springs and revolvers allaround..not much lift but flex's like crazy and i only had to trim the radius on the rear fenders for big tires!!!
oh the jeep gods told me you cant go back till you hit 49"tires...lol make it to the top first then go backwards [img]smile.gif[/img] that way you can say been there done that made the teeshirt [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ July 04, 2004, 05:11 AM: Message edited by: Sambo ]

[scotty]

guess it depends on your intended use RB,if youre gonna wheel it alot,go with the 39.5s. not that im a fan of a big lifts,i prefer a low CG myself, but youll wheel better with more clearance under your diffys. if youre only gonna run a 37" tire,ya might as well ditch the one tons and put some 44s under there so ya dont drag em over everything

if it were me,id lose height AND get the 39.5s,cut some fenders to make it work but i know thats not an option for you [img]tongue.gif[/img]

if youre only gonna wheel it mildy,or hardly at all,mostly street drive it,id tend to agree with mr rob selina,it prolly will ride and drive better with removed AALs and smaller meats

my $.02 anyway [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ July 04, 2004, 06:29 AM: Message edited by: scotty ]

[porkchop]

I have to say go lower. You know me, I don't like trucks to high they just don't look right. You can still wheel the desert with the lower truck. Plus the whole regearing thing would do it for me. Never want to do that again.

[robselina]

Originally posted by scotty:
guess it depends on your intended use RB,if youre gonna wheel it alot,go with the 39.5s. ...youll wheel better with more clearance under your diffys.

do many of you guys deal with really steep climbs or off camber situations? I'm already trying to figure out ways to lower my COG to climb steeper stuff, and I'm only at 7" lift and 35s! I just can't see it performing well being that top heavy.....also axle clearance is sorta overrated if you pick the right line through most stuff out here at least. I'm not saying big meats don't help, but it's not the diff clearance that's the important part, it's their ability to climb larger vertical obstacles and whatnot....anyway, just curious how those of you who think it's a good idea to go taller are thinking about this....

[Elliott]

Running heavy axles and keeping the rear drums will keep my COG low, also have a very wide track (87" that'll kill me on the narrow trails I'll never see).
Want to do well on the steeps go wide and long, there's trade offs in everything. I'm wide, tall and 120" in WB which should be a decent mix for most I'll do.
Don't forget that you sacrifice on approach and departure angles going low.
RB, you got the gear... I'd do the 42" Iroks. Remember that you live in an eco-sensitive area out there and maintaining better weight distribution is going to be easier on the environment.

[Mikel]

I'm a big fan of cutting and having a COG as low as possible. Back when I had my 78 Cherokee Chief, with 7" of lift and 38x12.5" swampers, I thought of cutting the rear fender flares and go for something more M715-like, and having M715 fenders in the front. This would allow me to get rid of the body lift, and run the 38's with very little or no rub at all.

But after the beautiful work you've done with those flares, that would be a crime [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Robber80]

i have SOA and 3" alcans, i would never lower my rig becuase i have the perfect frame hieght i'd ever want. My tons will go under and then 39.5s or 42s. cut to make fit. but then again my jeep is a lot different than yours. i'm just taking more and more body off it as i modify. it will be a buggy soon, then i can lower the springs and go 42s. i'd do what scotty said, don't go to 37s with tons. go 39.5s and then lower it. for some rearson your jeep looks so much taller tahn mine and im suppose to haev more lift than you??? but yours does look huge, bumper highet i mean.

[Desert Beast]

lower CG =
smaller tires =