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01-24-2006, 01:12 PM
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Anybody done this or heard of it on waggy? Thinking about it should be a nice set up if i decide to go for it, seen other rigs with it but no wagoneers, the only thing ive seen is coil set ups dont know if leafs would hold up, i think axle rap could be a real problem.
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01-25-2006, 02:22 AM
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Join Date: Feb 10, 2003
Location: Back in Mountainair NM
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http://www.nmvjc.org/ if this doesnt take you to it which it might not there software is really weird. Go to jeep discussions then look for "Started bending tube" by sceep. It is not a jeep perse but a buggy it will give you an idea on what would be involved if and when pirate comes back up I'll try to post a link from there also.
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01-25-2006, 03:00 AM
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01-25-2006, 08:03 AM
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I have said that if I had things to do over I would go a set of Uni-Mog axles. The axle wrap would be a concern especially the rear. A good wrap bar would handle most of the problems. OC has 4 linked his rear axle...this would indicate that 4 linking is not out of the question.
The front axle can be linked...Frank in Norway did his front axle.
A little research would indicate it is a possibility. I have seen a couple of rigs built by Blue Torch Fabworks with Mog axles...the ground clearance is insane.
Research, plan and build it 
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01-25-2006, 09:46 AM
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Join Date: Feb 10, 2003
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That is why I really haven't actively hunted a Front dana 60 if I am going to do the front I want to do it once and not fool with it again. So I want to go either mogs or 2.5 tons and not have to worry about it.
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01-25-2006, 01:58 PM
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I'd love to go with mog's because of the price and well..the bling. The only thing holding me back is the gearing in them. I'd like to go more than 45mph  . If my jeep was strictly trail, I'd be all over them.
I can only take one vehicle to Utah next year. Of course I'm picking the Jeep because of obvious reasons.
I haven't yet seen them under a waggie, but I have heard of a few members working on it currently.
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01-25-2006, 04:42 PM
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http://www.bc4x4.com/fv/2002/hulk/
http://www.exaxt.ca/
It's nor a FSJ but this guy has mogs under his Blazer. It's a very clean setup and could give inspiration to a FSJ with mogs buildup.
This one has leafs but if I where to do this I would go with coils or coilovers.
The gearing and the torque tubes are things that cons the mog axles and you may have to sacrifice some uptravel with mogs to keep the rig low enough.
Mogs where one of the things I considered when I coiled the Wag, mainly because they are easy to come by here in Norway. Another thoought was to use an unimoog frame and put the Wagoneer body on top of it.
The reason to do this was that in Norway we have very strict laws on vehicle modification. Especially on tire size and lift. So if I buildt myself a "uniwag" based on an unimog frame with a "modified" body I would get a truck that came stock with 42" tires 
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01-25-2006, 05:23 PM
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Join Date: Feb 10, 2003
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Stock with 42s Drool!! Most of the guys over here drop the tork tubes and put on custom drive shafts. The biggest problem is finding a match for the splines. I suppose if you had the tork tube you could possiable use part of it to make the connection.The last US vehicles to use an inclosed drive line like that was the early Ramblers at least that is the last I know of. Although after ripping my front drive shaft up the last time we went out it might be an idea who's time has come back around.
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01-25-2006, 10:58 PM
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i think anything is possible. I've seen 4-links f&r on a waggie. i haven't seen mogs but i've seen rocks under them. i say the sky is the limit. these are large vehicles with lots of room underneath. if i had the money i'd love to build another with mogs but i don't see that happening anytime soon.
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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01-26-2006, 02:05 AM
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Join Date: Feb 10, 2003
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i think anything is possible. I've seen 4-links f&r on a waggie. i haven't seen mogs but i've seen rocks under them. i say the sky is the limit. these are large vehicles with lots of room underneath. if i had the money i'd love to build another with mogs but i don't see that happening anytime soon.
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I am with you although stranger things have happened. Craig just picked up a 14 bolt for under a $100. because the guy found a set of mogs for $400.
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01-26-2006, 02:17 AM
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Join Date: Aug 17, 2002
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i heard a story yesterday about a guy who bought 8 front rockwells for $150 a piece. now he's selling them for $800-$1000. He said he'd rather see them rust to the ground then sell them for less.
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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Originally Posted by johnny019
I'm not saying lockers don't improve the performance of your rig, just that they're overrated.
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01-26-2006, 02:35 AM
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Join Date: Feb 10, 2003
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Some people are that way, some wreaking yards think every thing on the lot is gold and sell at a high price. I used to have a Datsun B210 there was one old guy who's idea was different than the rest, if it wasn't moving off his lot he wasn't making money so his parts were priced right. I even went over on a sunday when I threw the drive shaft, one of those unrebuildable things and he opened up and hunted through his piles till we found one that would work. When I final got rid of it I took it to him and signed over the title for $50. He!! most of it had come from his lot any way. LOL
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