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Old 01-27-2015, 05:38 PM
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1988 Arizona Grand Wagoneer Build

Thought I would share my newest FSJ build. Picked up a nice rust free Arizona 1988 Grand Wagoneer with low miles and runs very nicely for $800



Most of the issues are the interior with the typical cracked leather seats, headliner that is falling down, wear door lock actuators, a rear window that works sometimes and then not and a side rear door window that needs a new window regulator tape crown. Otherwise it's a solid project vehicle.

What makes this an easy start is that it has a 3" suspension lift already but it looks more like 2 or so. I don't want to lift it too high like my last Wagoneer "The Beast" because an 8+ inch is just a bit too much for my short, aging legs. I am thinking a 4 inch lift will work just fine for me.

I also bought a parts vehicle for another $400. Got it mostly for the massive front bumper, the custom roof rack and the Rhino grill and round headlights. It also has a near perfect rear seat, all the windows work too.



I've already ordered some parts and you'll most likely see this in a magazine article later this year when it's done.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:11 PM
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lFed Ex just delivered my first parts. I'm planning on installing them over the next two weeks, in between some planned off-road weekend camping trips.

Found this stuff on Ebay, talked with the seller/builder/inventor over a few weeks and decided that these would be a good addition to this project.

The first item is a Front Spring Shackle Reversal 2" Lift Kit.

Here are two pictures of the front pieces:





The kit also comes with blocks and u-bolts for the rear lift:



My first impression is that these are well built and will be an easy install.

Then while looking at all the FSJ stuff he has on his Ebay store, I saw this Front Receiver Hitch option for the front part of the build. I felt that while it is definitely an advantage for towing, lifting (jacking up) and a place to insert a receiver shackle mount for a recovery point, it definitely will beef up and stabilize the front spring mounts.



You can check out all the FSJ parts he offers on his Ebay Store:

http://stores.ebay.com/RockLaurence-Vintage-Auto-Parts

His name is Rocky, somewhere in Florida 863 397 4027

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Old 01-27-2015, 09:34 PM
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Rocky is a member on here.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:41 PM
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Looks awesome let us know how it goes I am trying to do the same to a 73 j4600...can you swap the grills out on those I like the one on the donor truck it looks more old school .. I know the j trucks share the same grill as wagoner I would like that look on mine.. I opened a 79 wagoner when I was a kid i rember I redid the outside wood grain with contact paper I bought from Walmart and it actually looked good! That thing would climb a tree I loved it.. Good luck
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:02 PM
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Yes the classic Gladiator/Rhino Grill can be swapped out to any FSJ.

Some things to consider (I've done 3 of these now) is that the header panels are not 100% the same. The FSJs with square headlights will take a little bit of fabrication to put round headlights in the holes (even thought the holes are still round). If you don't have round FSJ lights, CJ7 lights work perfectly.

If your FSJ has that "bull nose" bar across the front of the hood, it is going to leave two big holes you need to deal with. Also the non-Gladiator Grill models have a slightly different hood where it wraps around the top of the grill, most people won't notice it but other than finding the correct hood, there's nothing you can do about it.

Ah, wood grain, the AZ sun isn't friendly on wood grain. I wish that I could get away with some very reasonably priced Walmart contact paper but I doubt it would last more than a year. I'm guessing though for the price of the the "real" stuff, you could probably get 15 to 20 years out of Walmart vinyl contact paper and still be ahead.

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Jerry, I didn't know, that. Guess he will be tickled to see my post then :-)
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Old 01-28-2015, 06:48 AM
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Good looking GW Mike and good to see you back. You can find Rocky in the
Vendors section. Your wood grain look pretty good but when it start looking bad you can do as I did on my trail rig. I used a under coating with the texture that I liked an then painted over it the color that I wanted.http://s211.photobucket.com/user/jsi....jpg.html?o=17
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:23 AM
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Both of those trucks look pretty good. Are you sure you want to hack up that second one for a parts vehicle?
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Old 01-29-2015, 12:24 AM
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The second one got the nick name "The Death Mobile" from the movie Animal House. It is an Arizona FSJ, another 1988 GW. No rust no body damage but for the price, I couldn't pass it up. While the body is good the drive train is shot, motor blown, tranny I was told slipped like crazy and thunked before the the motor threw a rod and nailed a piston. About the only thing good are the D44 axles and the NP229 transfer case. The grill, bumper, roof rack and bumper alone are easily worth a few hundred more than I got into it.

I know what you are saying but there are lots of 88s out there that run and to get this one back into running condition and looking decent would cost way more than it's worth. It will be great as a spare parts Jeep though.
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Old 01-30-2015, 12:14 AM
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Well I think I got lucky today.

Found me a D44 axle from a mid 70's Wag with factory flat top knuckles on Craigslist for $100.

Going to get them milled to accept high steer arms and move the tie rod and drag link up and out of the way.

I'll put the 88 knuckles back on the donor axle and try to sell it again.
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Old 01-30-2015, 08:52 AM
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Parts GW

SteelPonyCowboy. Nice find on the parts GW. Ill buy the Vacuum motor 4wd actuator if your willing to sale it.
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Total BS! Nice find, you stole it.

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I also bought a parts vehicle for another $400. Got it mostly for the massive front bumper, the custom roof rack and the Rhino grill and round headlights. It also has a near perfect rear seat, all the windows work too.


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Old 02-22-2015, 08:01 PM
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LOL. I finally got the "parts" Jeep stripped down from all the things I wanted:

Rhino Grill
Roof Rack
Bumpers
Rear Seat

Then someone stopped by and asked me if I would consider selling the D44 axles. So I removed some more stuff:

Custom diamond plate door and rear side panels
Stereo system
Custom diamond plate dash with full set of AutoMeter gauges
Took a couple of window regulators.

I asked him to make me an offer to take the whole thing and he gave me two "Benjamin's".

So yes, I guess I stole it

Oh the flat top knuckles, I got them removed and put a spare set of regular ones back on from my last high steer Wag. Resold that for $100.

So now all the "junk" I don't need is out of my side yard. Fiancée is happy a bit now all that is cleaned up but still have all the aluminum stuff like the factory '88 grill, bumpers and such. Oh and a few of the long side windows from a FSJ Cherokee. Not sure why I am keeping them. Thought maybe I could the aluminum stuff to the scrap yard along with my bag of aluminum cans.
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:20 AM
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Well it's been a couple of weeks since I last posted anything. Been tied up with club business and working on a couple of articles for the magazine.

In my spare time, I've managed to take the roof rack from the "death mobile" and sand it down for new paint. I picked out Rustoleum Hammered Copper. The white and copper should look spiffy together.

The Hella lights and KCs I wanted to use with the rack were way too big so I ordered a set of Hella 500ff Driving lights and they fit perfect. Now the wait is for the 4 others ordered to fill up all the lighting spots up front.

Installed a solar panel to keep the battery at peak charge when the Jeep has been sitting for a while and also to replace some the power that the 60 quart fridge/freezer will be using when I'm off on some expeditions.

As communications are important, I installed CB, Ham Radio and Cellular extender antennas plus there are two other mounts ready to accept an external GPS antenna and a Sirius/XM external antenna.

I took a tire mount left over from another project and fitted it to this rack.

There are now two 5 gallon Jerry Can holders on each side at the rear for extra water.

A RotoPak mount was placed on the drivers side to hold two 4 gallon RotoPak gas containers.

On the passenger side I've put a "multi-mount" of my own design which is going to hold my HiLift Xtreme jack for the short term until I get it mounted to my custom rear bumper then it will be used to mount a Fox Wing awning to keep me shaded at camp.

Now that all of that work is done, I've got a few guys from the club coming over this afternoon to help hoist this "titanic" roof rack up on the roof and then bolt it down.

I'll take a few pictures and post them tonight and then update you on the progress of the shackle reverse lift, the front and rear bumpers, roll cage and more.
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Old 03-14-2015, 04:13 PM
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Sound like you are getting there. Yes it pictures time.
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Old 03-14-2015, 07:50 PM
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SPC how have you been?

I have some parts mike knuckles from my 82. They are set up for high steer/cross over. PM me if you are interested.
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Old 03-15-2015, 09:00 PM
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So here are the preliminary pics taken before all the accys were put on the rack, so you can see more of the rack.

Here's a front view with two of the Hella 500ff driving lights installed, have 4 more on the way here to fill out the rest of the open "slots"



A side view from the back showing the left rear Jerry can holder and in the center the RotoPax bracket.



The laser cut RotoPax bracket looks almost too nice to cover up with their fuel cans.



Picture of the back is kind of boring right now, not sure what to mount here but anything in the back will get in the way of removing the spare tire. Thought about a Humvee Pioneer rack with all "tools", more RotoPax mounts or perhaps even putting the Hi-Lift there.



The right side has two mounting bars sticking out 4" that can hold accessories that can attach to any Rhino Rack platform. I have shovel mounts, Hi-Lift mounts and more importantly a Fox Wing awning I can attach there.



I'll post pictures tomorrow of the rack with accessories and antennas installed on it.
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:33 PM
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With temps reaching 90 for a few days in a row and a pretty intense sun in the sky, it kind of slows one down, especially an old fart like me.

Today I got all the things that I originally intended to install or attach to the roof rack. It's beginning to look like an Expedition rig.

Don't know how I feel about the way the RotoPax gas cans look mounted on top of each other. I thought it stuck out too far, my girlfriend said it looked fine because it didn't stick out any further than the outermost part of the body. I was thinking about splitting them up, moving the existing mount forward and putting another toward the rear and them mounted back to back so to speak. Still thinking.







From the rear you can see the two Scepter water Jerry cans on either side, a Cobra CB antenna, a Wilson Cellular antenna, the spare tire and a Comet dual band Ham Radio antenna





Hi-Lift Extreme 60" Jack on the passenger side



An the 20 watt solar panel mounted up front.



Tonight when it cools down a bit I will start working on the 2" shackle reversal kit by installing the rear 2" lift blocks and weather permitting on Wednesday I plan on working on the front shackle reversal install.
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Looks good! Great pics! Keep'em coming!
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Old 03-21-2015, 02:53 AM
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Ok, here is an update. Got the back lift blocks installed, that was fairly quick and easy. Spent about an hour or so per side.

Got most of the left side front done today but used up all the juice in the 4 batteries for my DeWalt 18v grinder so all that is left to do in the morning is to finish grinding off the last rivet on the bottom of the original spring hanger and I can get to installing the left side. Figure it's going to take me about an hour to finish up the left side then I can hit the right side.

Figuring on finishing up the shackle reversal lift sometime late tomorrow.

While I only spent two hours on the rear, the front is going to probably end up being 3 hours per side or 6 hours total. Now that is at my speed, it might take someone else half the time or it could take you longer.

Will post pictures and such either tomorrow or Sunday.
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I am so pissed off, I just spent an hour writing up the install of the 2" Shackle Reversal Lift Kit along with pictures and got timed out. It never posted. And everything got lost.

GRRRRRRRR !

I'll try it again in a bit when I cool down a bit.
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