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Old 01-03-2012, 11:44 PM
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Will the wiring be good for HID lighting?
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:32 AM
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CJ Jeepsters FSJ Tons of other if it has the square or 7" round headlight this will work. it will work for standard Halogen Xenon & HID Lamps.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:49 AM
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:37 AM
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I would deff be down for one. my lights need help and i plan on upgrading here soon anyway.
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:01 AM
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Update

I have recieved most of the parts & rejected one. It's appears the rest of the parts will be in this week if shipping from the holidays.

I built a prototype last night & this works fine for the quad socket modifications,driving light modifications. It appears just for the standard conversion this will take 90+% of the load off of the light switch. Also as stated they're will not be any difference in the operation of the dimmer or light swicth it will operate as it is suppose to. The light switch I used was one out of a 72 model. I intitailly connected the system without the bypass system & the switch was indeed hot. After connecting the bypass the switch went to room temperature. I did simulate the tailight load in the test. Taillight load went from 13 amps worst case to a little lass than 4 amps. the tungsten headlight load is a real intense load. the load reduction does indeed do what it is supposed to do. I have a jeepster commando project that i will be running a full blown istall & test Saturday. Because of my travel schedul my completion of the first ones will still be th ewek of the 23rd.
These systems far surpass the units you can buy for HID conversions today. There's also no mofifications to this, there are to HIDs t makethem do this. The This is one of the reasons I came up with this idea. I had 3 problems with mine bought bypass system. The wires were over heating which were #16. The relay burned up & I found ther is no servicable relay replacements without buying another harness. So I decideed to replace it with a built system & when I started to remove it I found the light sockets were deformed from heat. This system had only been on the truck for 5 weeks. One more advantage to my system, I will utilize 2 relays. This will be primarily to keep heat load down & balance power distibution. Eliminates HID flucyuation also. The 2 relay system offers a distinct advantage, if something were to happen to one relay you would only lose one light. All of the systems I've looked into deploy a single relay for HIDs. If that relay quits you have no lights. So my relays are capable of carrying the entire load. The hid relays which were rated 40 amps could not carry 10. Since there is no quality requirments on these & no one ensure the specs are correct they sell them. I was wondering why when you go into these customizing shops that do HID conversions you'll see ballast & wiring harnesses laying everywhere. The service tech there a guy I've known for years told me that these harnesses were great because the failure of those & cheap ballest has become a great resource for him.
Response for questions. is I am putting great thought into making this system a simple install. The drivers are a good system that trully removes all headlighting load which is 90% of your headlight swithes load. Results are the load removal & improved lighting, better electrical distribution utilizing one of the primary physics of electricty. That is being the least path of resistance. Basically this is done by wirng the lighting from the battey straight to the headlights via the relay system. Instead of the power running from the battery to the fuse block from the fuse block to the headlight switch, from the switch to the dimmer & then to the lights.

Once these are complete I will set up some kind of install instuctions probably with a few pictures. I wil develop that after the full blown mock up Saturday.

The install/difficulty level on this on a 1 to 10 level should be an 3 or less. 1 being the easiest 10 being the hardest.
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:52 PM
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I am interested in one but please forgive my ignorance. I will be installing it in an 84 GW. Would I need to buy new or different headlamps/bulbs or will it work with the sealed beams? I am just trying to figure the total cost of this upgrade. I am not real good with automotive electricals so this is very daunting to me and I want to make sure I know what I'm getting into before I start.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:36 PM
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No worries that is what the kit is for

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I am interested in one but please forgive my ignorance. I will be installing it in an 84 GW. Would I need to buy new or different headlamps/bulbs or will it work with the sealed beams? I am just trying to figure the total cost of this upgrade. I am not real good with automotive electricals so this is very daunting to me and I want to make sure I know what I'm getting into before I start.
It will work with any bulb.
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Old 01-09-2012, 08:37 PM
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Done develpoment complete here's some pics

OK these sat on the lab burning for 2 days. Notice the yellow sockets are porcelain! These are twice as heavy as they have to be. The relays are good for 40 amps each! That's 80 amps total. They are fused for 30 amps. This is all top quality easy to find parts. The fuse holder can be mounted also.


Here's the relays & sockets.



Ok here's the mock up left side. What you're looking at is the main location of the system. You will mount the relays behind the left headlight using a self taping screw. You see the black & yellow light sockets. The black socket connects to the original headlight socket. The yellow socket connects to your headlight. You will mount the relays using self tapping screws. Connect the black wire on the yellow socket to ground via the terminal bottom of picture the little ring, with self tapping screws.


Right side: Run the (yellow) socket from the left side to the right headlight assembly. Take the light loose from the original socket Tape the original socket up & plug your headlight it into the yellow one. Connect the black to ground with the self tapping screw the same as the left side. Remember there are existing ground locations you cab attach these to.



Last but not least you will run this wire with fuse holder from the relays behind the headlight to the stater solenoid & connect it to the battery side of the starter solenoid. Put your head lights back in & you're done. The relays will now control power to your lights the headlights & dimmers will work just as they are suppose to. I installed this in my Commando yesterday no problems. This can be modified as stated for 4 lights or driving lights etc.


I will build about 10 of these this week. If you're on the list I will contact you they will be ready to ship this comming weekend. Let me know if you have any questions there is no doubt this is the easiest way to do this & it is made out of the best parts. these are by far more heavy duty than anything offered for the hardwire bypass that doesn't bypass the dimmers. Paypal or money order will work. the only thing you should beed are wire ties. Besides a few hand tools.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:32 PM
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Looks good.. Might have to go this route while I'm in the midst of rewiring everything.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:38 PM
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let me know I was driven by a couple of issues that these things correct.

I'll build 30 That's what I bought parts for. The intent is to bypass the light circuit with the load so you can upgrade your light & make even the stock light brighter. A couple of menebers brought t to my attention that fols have cought their rigs on fire because of eadlight switch & dimer isses. this will fix that. The bulbs being demoed are Sylvania Holgens.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:45 PM
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these will work with any bulb

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Originally Posted by spankyway
I am interested in one but please forgive my ignorance. I will be installing it in an 84 GW. Would I need to buy new or different headlamps/bulbs or will it work with the sealed beams? I am just trying to figure the total cost of this upgrade. I am not real good with automotive electricals so this is very daunting to me and I want to make sure I know what I'm getting into before I start.

The idea is optimum lighting witout hurting your wiring. You can use stadards halogens or HIDs.
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:51 PM
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Very interested but would like to see an install picture. Unfortunately for me, OEM is more important then brighter lights, but if this can be hidden enough im in!

And yeah I dont doubt you on the price, I have about $60 into my XJ harness upgrade (used ceramic H4 adapters as well). But I didnt really shop around. Oh and its still not done....
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:55 PM
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This looks good.

This would be a good and worth wild upgrade to any FSJ. This and some H4's will really improve the lighting.
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I will be hooking this up to my Hella e-codes. Cant wait.
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:09 PM
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I can build 2 or 3 a night & will contact some of you guys on saturday.

thanks guys I will guarantee them to be great quality & work.
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And is shipping to the UK (obviously at my cost) an option?

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And is shipping to the UK (obviously at my cost) an option?

cheers

Lets see what we can work out.
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Lets see what we can work out.

Ok cheers, would be after 2 sets, the J10 and Chief both have razors so may as well do both.

Ideally shipping via United States Postal Service (Economy Surface Parcel Post), that way I dont get charged by a courier for their paperwork processing (scammers ).

Will keep an eye on this thread or drop me a pm/email (old - iron @ talktalk .net)

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