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08-02-2011, 08:39 AM
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Borg Warner 1305 / 1339 QuadraTrac Transfer Case
Is the QT obsolete (now that they are no longer making the drive chain or the emergency drive vacum shifter)? I have one in the jeep with low range and one in the garage with low range. Just curious if I will have to look at swapping transfer cases in the future due to lack of parts for the QT.
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08-02-2011, 09:02 AM
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Obsolescence comes gradually. For some people, that are willing to put aside good parts or don't drive enough to wear out the parts they have or have the resources to make the parts they need, such things are never obsolete.
You'll have to decide what you are willing to accept in terms of parts and service. There's no direct replacement for the BW13xx, so any replacement with a different case will require time, effort and money.
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08-02-2011, 10:05 AM
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Yep, support is tapering off. Get at least one spare chain and seal kit to keep you going for a while. If you need a chain now, buy 2. 
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08-02-2011, 01:19 PM
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Stock up on parts, or swap it out, whichever, I personally went the swap route, 241C with a couple special parts, and some bench time to rebuild the tranny and swap tail shafts, it was a bolt in deal into the truck. (i.e. I can swap back and forth between a Th-400 Q-trak, setup and this setup using the same stock flex-plate/mounts, in the same time it would take to R&R a stock unit .. (Drive lines have to be swapped also)

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08-02-2011, 06:28 PM
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just curious but how do you supply lube with the case upside down? I thought they had an internal oil pump on those? Thanks Tim
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08-02-2011, 07:54 PM
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just curious but how do you supply lube with the case upside down? I thought they had an internal oil pump on those? Thanks Tim
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No internal oil pump on the QT. There are several plugs similar to the ones in the picture above. As the chain rotates thru the oil it will send the lube to the other parts of the case. Don't forget to fill the low range reduction unit as well.
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08-02-2011, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMax78
Is the QT obsolete (now that they are no longer making the drive chain or the emergency drive vacum shifter)? I have one in the jeep with low range and one in the garage with low range. Just curious if I will have to look at swapping transfer cases in the future due to lack of parts for the QT.
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IMO, a properly working and maintained QT on a stock or mildly modified FSJ is a force to be reconned(SP?) with. If you ever get the chance to get a spare transfer case from a junker that's a good thing to hang onto just in case 
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08-02-2011, 09:21 PM
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If you are refering to the 241C it is not upside down, tilted a few degrees, but not more than ~7-> 10 degrees from how GM mounted them.
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just curious but how do you supply lube with the case upside down? I thought they had an internal oil pump on those? Thanks Tim
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1977 J-10 Honcho 360-T15-D20
1977 Cherokee WT 360-Th400-NP241 true-trac(s)
1979 Cherokee 4 Door 258-T-18-D20
1981 Cherokee Chief WT 360-727-NP208
1972 K20 Suburban 350 SM465 205
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08-03-2011, 06:33 PM
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got you I was thinking jeeps 241 which has d.s front output. what year is that out of and what about the adapter? just in case my stash of q.t. chains runs out. thanks tim
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08-03-2011, 07:44 PM
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08-04-2011, 07:50 AM
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I would like to keep the stock drivetrain. That's why I got another QT with low range. Looks like I'll be stocking up on parts and running it. The Qt worked great this past winter in the freak snow storm we had hear in N AL.
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