The cs144 is a madman! Do it, you won't regret it! (pics on pg. 2)

[freeincolorado]

The heated windshield version has more than one charge stud is what I have heard.

Some pics:


I used two washers to take up the space leftover from the bracket.


The belt adjustment is maxed out. I need shorter belts.

[AMC-J/20]

CS144 !? looks like a general purpose Garden variety GM alternator to me

Am i missing some thing

Mike

[freeincolorado]

It is a general purpose, garden variety GM alternator. It just fits FSJ's without many modifications and puts out 140 amps.

[AMC-J/20]

Direct bolt in ? . . . Now that is some thing to get excited about

Mostly gotta Modify some thing to swap a GM alt in

Mike

[freeincolorado]

The adjustment bracket needs to bent a little and the top/rear bracket gets removed. There is an harness that plugs in between the alternator and the stock wiring. I did not use the adapter. I pulled a plug from the junkyard and spliced it in. The alternator has been on for a week now and have had no issues.

EDIT: I wouldnt call it a direct bolt in... but still easy enough to do.

[grand_wag_85]

I'll have to do this on the J10

[freeincolorado]

Sean-
I'd highly recommend doing the swap.

Anybody try this on a 258?

[Mark Wilde]

Just curious, why did you not run the second belt?

[mdill]

Originally Posted by shackwrrr

whats the difference between the heated vs. non heated windsheild? Wouldnt the alternator be a higher output with the heated one?

I think the heated windshield runs directly off the 3 phase un-rectified stator winding output, so the alt has three extra output studs. (From memory)
If you guy's want some lower brackets, let me know I can bend up some more.




Another batch of brackets has been built: and are available (e-coated this time )



Mike D.

[mdill]

Here is a picture of a heated window one, notice the three extra studs on the back.

[freeincolorado]

Originally Posted by Mark Wilde

Just curious, why did you not run the second belt?

These pics are from when I was testing everything out. I'll be replacing all of the belts this weekend.

[Wagoneerlover]

freeincolorado


Hey Freeincolorado,

When I did this swap I tried several different belts. many manufacturers claim different lengths etc. Anyway I settled on belts made by gates. The gates belts actually are slightly longer than some of the other brands out there and they fit perfectly and give you the extra length you need so that you actually have adjustment room and you dont need herculean strength to get the cs-144 on and adjusted. I have the part number for the gates brand belts if you want it. (Need to look under the hood I forgot the number.)

[babywag]

I just did this swap yesterday, the factory length belts were almost right on for me.
~1/2" left on the adjustment arm.

I think a longer belt we be no good, in most cases a shorter belt would be ideal.

[freeincolorado]

Does anyone make a new rear bracket? Is it even needed? I'm o.k. with not using one. I think that the two remaining brackets are strong enough.

I'm just curious what others have done.

[Allen78J20]

Is there a quick and dirty version of this swap? I read Joe's article and my head was swimming. Very informative, but I was overwhelmed. I need something like:


"Get this alternator, hook up these wires,do this and that so your truck wont catch fire, test."

[freeincolorado]

Originally Posted by Allen78J20

Is there a quick and dirty version of this swap? I read Joe's article and my head was swimming. Very informative, but I was overwhelmed. I need something like:


"Get this alternator, hook up these wires,do this and that so your truck wont catch fire, test."

You could say I did it quick and dirty.

[Serious Johnson]

Originally Posted by will e

When I did the swap on my waggy, I had issues with the adjuster bracket and I needed a longer belt size.

Can you snap a pic of your install and how you lined up the bracket?

When I did mine ('83 Wagoneer Limited), I started with a CS-130, because I didn't feel like fiddling with the brackets. Turned out that my particular vehicle originally had an optional alternator (15-SI?), and the CS-130 wouldn't fit (not enough bracket travel inward). Got a CS-144 ($68 from local alternator shop) and that dropped right in with only the pigtail and a couple of different fasteners. The stock belts were a perfect fit.

S.J.

[wickedwagon767]

Originally Posted by mdill

I think the heated windshield runs directly off the 3 phase un-rectified stator winding output, so the alt has three extra output studs. (From memory)
If you guy's want some lower brackets, let me know I can bend up some more.



Mike D.

I'd like a lower bracket mdill

[Prime]

My uncle has a couple of junk caddies, and I am goin to try to locate one tomorrow. Are there any makings or numbers to identify one? CS144 maybe or ? I dont want to sweet talk him out of the wrong one, since he doent like to get rid of anything.

[babywag]

Originally Posted by Prime

My uncle has a couple of junk caddies, and I am goin to try to locate one tomorrow. Are there any makings or numbers to identify one? CS144 maybe or ? I dont want to sweet talk him out of the wrong one, since he doent like to get rid of anything.

I installed one the other day from a '91 Caddy Fleetwood
Years/models are in my thread...
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=115527