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Windrock Pics 6-27-09
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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I'm not saying lockers don't improve the performance of your rig, just that they're overrated.
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...Saturday, the power steering pump blew up and I had to steer a full hydro system with 42s all day on Rail Trail...
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I feel your pain. Dang it sucks, huh? Had to do that in Las Cruces for who knows how many miles, just to get back to camp.
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After this weekend chicks are gonna need suspenders to keep their panties up when I roll in
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It didn't just give up the ghost. I smashed into a log beside the trail and when I landed it quit working. So I think that's what's wrong. I hope so anyway since I had a spare back at the house.
Anyway, my arms are sore and shoulders too. When we get the vids up you'll see how I was straining on some of the obstacles. I had to keep rocking back and forth to get the wheel to turn. Not the best time for it to crap out but not many can say they've ran that trail under those conditions 
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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I'm not saying lockers don't improve the performance of your rig, just that they're overrated.
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looks like a hella-fun trip 
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hope Steve posts soon. I think he's got some of the best of the trip
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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I'm not saying lockers don't improve the performance of your rig, just that they're overrated.
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06-30-2009, 02:25 PM
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who fell? 
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Steve's wife. She was a trooper. I'll hopefully get more vids up tomorrow.
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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I'm not saying lockers don't improve the performance of your rig, just that they're overrated.
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I couldn't help but laugh, as I've done the same thing myself. Got into watching what I was filming and lost my footing. First thought afterwards was "hey, I didn't drop the camera....WOOHOO!"
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Great picts, looking forward to more vids.
However, how do you steer a full hydro system without a pump? 
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How do you steer a REGULAR setup without a pump? I was annoyed by my GW on 31s ON ROAD when the pump went out... Offroad it would have been next to impossible and with 42s I can't even imagine how you would steer it.
Also thanks for sharing.. More video please!
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Great picts, looking forward to more vids.
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Most orbitals have a fail safe valve that will move fluid manually as long as your system is still intact. It's similar to non-power steering in feel, maybe harder to turn. It's not fun but works. My danfoss does this.
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Most orbitals have a fail safe valve that will move fluid manually as long as your system is still intact. It's similar to non-power steering in feel, maybe harder to turn. It's not fun but works. My danfoss does this.
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Ahh ok.
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Looks like alot of fun.
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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Originally Posted by johnny019
I'm not saying lockers don't improve the performance of your rig, just that they're overrated.
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Last one that I have.
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I would think boxing would limit the amount the frame could flex over obstacles which I think IMO would be a bad thing. I would think you would want all the articulation possible.
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I'm not saying lockers don't improve the performance of your rig, just that they're overrated.
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Sorry I don't get over here often. My pics are few but the vid is up. It is an awesome vid too!
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