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TripleR Fabworks introduces FSJ rock sliders
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Originally posted by welchctThere are about 5 trails that actualy have section that are upwards of 85* and climb 40-50 feet at this deg.
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Originally posted by StukaWhats your point? So you bought sliders for a toyota that are mass produced and made with smaller material...
TrailGear site: "Made from 1 3/4" X .120 round HREW tubing. Legs can be be cut to length to allow for different mounting positions. "
Also:http://www.trail-gear.com/rocksliders.html
Besides, I'd like to see some more of the welding these guys do...from the photos it looks cold (not trying to bash on anyone here, but want to see the end product! Esp. since they look like TG knock offs).
ie Trail Gear universals:
So, what your point?Last edited by Kaiser; 06-03-2007, 09:02 PM.1965 Kaiser/Jeep Gladiator J300 7600 GVW
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Originally posted by KaiserGee, I just ordered my TrailGear sliders for about $140.
$250 and I got free shipping...
Everyone pisses and moans that no one makes FSJ specific parts. Here we have a small time guy trying to do just that and you suggest an off the shelf part that is deffinately not going to fit like this:
Great product. If my $ituation were a bit different, I would deffinately have a set coming my way.
DanLast edited by backpack09; 06-04-2007, 07:31 AM.Dan G91 GrandWagMSD Mag Dizzy, MSD 6A
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Originally posted by KaiserI bought universal sliders that are adaptable to any rig so long as you know how to weld...I dont care if they are mass produced or not...and they are the SAME dimensional material...
TrailGear site: "Made from 1 3/4" X .120 round HREW tubing. Legs can be be cut to length to allow for different mounting positions. "
Also:http://www.trail-gear.com/rocksliders.html
Besides, I'd like to see some more of the welding these guys do...from the photos it looks cold (not trying to bash on anyone here, but want to see the end product! Esp. since they look like TG knock offs).
ie Trail Gear universals:
So, what your point?
Furthermore, you're kidding yourself if you think those sliders are "generic" and will fit any rig. I spent several hours getting the fit just right against the rocker, making sure the door clears, setting the angle on the slider bar, getting the stickout just right from the frame etc. Not to mention I don't know if you've seen an FSJ frame before but there ain't a lot of places to put mounting feet. I didn't just slap three pieces of tube on and call it good. They are strategically placed so you can weld them onto a straight piece of frame with no bolt or crossmember interference. The front foot has to be placed around the crossmember bolts. The middle foot has a bend in the frame to deal with. The rear foot has the spring box in the way. The chances the TG sliders will just magically work in that scenario are about 0. Also, each foot is a different length. Yea, this sucks for me because I have to make them all separately and notch them all separately but it'll be great for the end user because it will fit their frame. Now, I'm sure you can MAKE the TG sliders work but it'll take a chop saw and welder at a bare minimum and that's only if you don't have to start cutting tubes off and rewelding them on. If you want something you know will fit and you don't feel like playing <around then> spend $289 on my set. Otherwise, drop $140 and pray.
BTW, I'd love to see the pictures of the TG sliders on your rig As for mine being knockoffs you can only be so creative with a slider. The design works and looks good.Last edited by Rogue; 06-05-2007, 09:16 AM.Buggy Buildup
Originally posted by welchctThere are about 5 trails that actualy have section that are upwards of 85* and climb 40-50 feet at this deg.
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What are the chances of a Jtruck version being built from you. I would be really interested in them if you get the chance to make some. Let me know.
Thanks,
Rankin1972 J2000: 304, T18, Dana 20, Dana 44s w/ 4.09s, Rear Detroit, 7.50-16s
1977 J10: 401, TH400, Quadratrac, partime kit, Dana 60's , 4.10s, welded rear, RS44044s SOA, 63" Springs inboarded, 36" Goodyear RT IIs
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I wouldn't mind doing a set for you if I had a j-truck to work off of. You could give me measurements but I'd really like to have one at hand when I make the set. If yours the long wheel base or short wheel base?Buggy Buildup
Originally posted by welchctThere are about 5 trails that actualy have section that are upwards of 85* and climb 40-50 feet at this deg.
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At the beginning of this thread you mentioned that these sliders will work on 79-?? I have a 76 Chero w/a 3" BL ... compatibleOriginally posted by will eKeep in mind. Getting old is easy. Being old is hard.
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They would be for my '77 J10 which is a short wheel base. I can give you some measurements if you need them but I'm sure you would rather have a truck to mock up to.
There is really no rush on my side so if you were planning on making some for production and are just waiting to get a Jtruck to work with I can wait for that as well. If you are not planning on putting Jtruck sliders in production then just let me know.
Thanks,
Rankin1972 J2000: 304, T18, Dana 20, Dana 44s w/ 4.09s, Rear Detroit, 7.50-16s
1977 J10: 401, TH400, Quadratrac, partime kit, Dana 60's , 4.10s, welded rear, RS44044s SOA, 63" Springs inboarded, 36" Goodyear RT IIs
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Originally posted by rockjeep44Dude, if you want to bash my sliders please start a new thread. Also, if you have such a hard-on for TG why don't you get set up as a dealer and sell them here
Furthermore, you're kidding yourself if you think those sliders are "generic" and will fit any rig. I spent several hours getting the fit just right against the rocker, making sure the door clears, setting the angle on the slider bar, getting the stickout just right from the frame etc. Not to mention I don't know if you've seen an FSJ frame before but there ain't a lot of places to put mounting feet. I didn't just slap three pieces of tube on and call it good. They are strategically placed so you can weld them onto a straight piece of frame with no bolt or crossmember interference. The front foot has to be placed around the crossmember bolts. The middle foot has a bend in the frame to deal with. The rear foot has the spring box in the way. The chances the TG sliders will just magically work in that scenario are about 0. Also, each foot is a different length. Yea, this sucks for me because I have to make them all separately and notch them all separately but it'll be great for the end user because it will fit their frame. Now, I'm sure you can MAKE the TG sliders work but it'll take a chop saw and welder at a bare minimum and that's only if you don't have to start cutting tubes off and rewelding them on. If you want something you know will fit and you don't feel like playing a lot of graba*s then nut up and spend $289 on my set. Otherwise, drop $140 and pray.
BTW, I'd love to see the pictures of the TG sliders on your rig As for mine being knockoffs you can only be so creative with a slider. The design works and looks good. Go complain to someone that cares.Last edited by Rogue; 06-05-2007, 12:15 PM.1965 Kaiser/Jeep Gladiator J300 7600 GVW
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I'll post more pictures when they are ready to post. Hacksaw? ROFL...Last edited by Rogue; 06-05-2007, 09:17 AM.Buggy Buildup
Originally posted by welchctThere are about 5 trails that actualy have section that are upwards of 85* and climb 40-50 feet at this deg.
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Originally posted by KaiserWhy dont you yourself "nut up" and answer why you cant be any more creative than copying what some consider to be "cheap" Trail Gear sliders...
Dude sliders of this type have been out for a long friggin' time, well before Trail Gear copied the design like they've been rumored to do with everything else they sell. Stop jerkin' it to TG, they didn't invent these silly things....its a common design type you see all the friggin time from home built or aftermarket suppliers. Plus you're comparing a decently established company to a guy making stuff for a vehicle with a cult following.
stop bashing a guy making a custom product FSJers have wanted and needed for a while. Jesus..Last edited by Rogue; 06-05-2007, 09:18 AM.'10 Chevy Silverado 5.3L - The DD.
'81 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo
'73 Jeep J2000 - On the perpetual backburner.
Texas A&M Offroad
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I'm done with Kaiser, he obviously has something against me and it's not even worth arguing.
I'll have some more stuff worth talking about tomorrow Thanks for the interest guys.
-AndrewBuggy Buildup
Originally posted by welchctThere are about 5 trails that actualy have section that are upwards of 85* and climb 40-50 feet at this deg.
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Andrew, how well do you think .120 wall will hold up? I see 1 3/4X.120 dom get pretty beat up at work. Any chance of getting .156 wall?Thomas Russell
1987 Cherokee Laredo 2-Door 4.0/AW4
1971 Gladiator J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18
1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T181968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400
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Originally posted by KaiserManAndrew, how well do you think .120 wall will hold up? I see 1 3/4X.120 dom get pretty beat up at work. Any chance of getting .156 wall?
BTW: Hell, I'd still buy these if I had a Wag/Cherokee. I figured it'd be fair to have a fair comparison with your competitors since there is a nearly exact product out there...
Cheers,
DLS1965 Kaiser/Jeep Gladiator J300 7600 GVW
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