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Old 05-13-2018, 06:13 PM
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Good leaf spring source?

Im really considering going back to stock height. I hate my 4" Hell creek springs. It rides like crap and after driving it on a 175 mile round trip this weekend I've decided it has to go. Anyone have a good source for new stock replacements for a first generation pickup?
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:30 PM
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Have you tried removing a leaf or two?
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:39 PM
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I hate them in general. Its not just about the ride quality. They have my front shackles straight up and down and the front has zero movement in any direction. I get death wobble so bad it started to crack my steering box mount and that is with a perfect alignemnt, all new front end components and perfectly balanced tires. The rear i dont mind so much but its just not a good ride at all. I want stock again. Im over it. Tired of having to hang on for dear life when i drive and pray i dont hit a mild bump in the road, i hate jumping up into it, and i have a truck that mechanically handles 85mph like a champ on the highway if its on perfect fresh pavement but i have to drive the interstate no more than 60mph with white knuckles the whole time. Stock was better. Its been about 6 agravating years with these springs, and thats less than 10k on them. I would even make a weekend project with someone if they wanted to trade theirs for mine in my driveway. I'll even provide food and adult beverages.
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:44 PM
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On your death wobble... What's your caster angle? Your problem may have a simple solution...
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:54 PM
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No clue. I didnt do the alignment. I dont have any shims angling the front diff, It sits how it would on stock springs, just at a different height. It has the original spring perches on it. I didnt move the front spring posts. Im using stock shackles. It has a solid closed knuckle and kingpin setup and steering preload is at 13lbs. FSM says 12-16lbs IIRC, it was in stock specs. I dont know why it does it but it never did it prior to the lift. All i know is im sick of locking up my brakes at interstate speeds to make it stop. Its a matter of time until it causes an accident and i damage my truck. Thats not an option

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Old 05-13-2018, 06:55 PM
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Its really more than just the death wobble. Its not a good ride at all. Plus i have a bad back and leg so climbing up almost 3 feet to the floorboard is getting old.
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Old 05-14-2018, 03:06 PM
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I bought used springs from Craigslist. They are all over down here in SoCal. I have a set of Crown replacement springs under the front of my rig right now: super soft. You can have them for the cost of shipping (only the front though). Just know shipping will probably be close to $100.
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Old 05-14-2018, 03:19 PM
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Apparently the death wobble cracked the frame where the steering box mounts so springs are now secondary.
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I bought used springs from Craigslist. They are all over down here in SoCal. I have a set of Crown replacement springs under the front of my rig right now: super soft. You can have them for the cost of shipping (only the front though). Just know shipping will probably be close to $100.

Early ones are whole different animal.
‘76-‘91 springs interchange, not the case on his truck.
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Copy. Second bad bit of info I have dispensed today.
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I got the fronts on my 66 from Alcan, and they were able to add two inches of lift and bend new U bolts for me. They were easy to deal with and seem nice enough. Not cheap though...
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