So, I'm just kind of snowballing on an idea here. I like to be different in a lot of things I do and I, like a lot of people, get tired of seeing SBC and LS swaps in Jeeps (Not knocking anyone here as I am a big believer in LS engines). Now, I'm all for AMC power. In fact, I'm kind of an AMC freak and one of those people that normally cringe when someone takes out their "junk AMC garbage" engine just because they don't understand it. Now, with that said, as I've been using my '79 Cherokee for daily driver duty off and on for the better part of almost 8 years now I will tell you that it takes a special kind of person to take 36 year old iron and use it as a reliable source of transportation on a day to day basis lol. SO, enough rambling here. My idea is to take a late model Chrysler era Grand Wagoneer, rip out it's outdated (even for then) AMC drivetrain, and swap in a complete fuel injected/overdriven/AWD (5.9 Magnum/46RE/NV244) drivetrain from a late model first gen Dodge Durango R/T and make it look somewhat factory-ish. This will be a project that I most likely will never get to so this thread is just mostly for the sake of conversation. Go!
What do ya think?
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-Jonny B.
1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker
1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
1979 Wagoneer - Sold
1981 Cherokee Chief - CubedTags: None
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Originally posted by MadMax78I say go for it. Don't just talk about it. I would love to see you do this build.-Jonny B.
1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker
1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
1979 Wagoneer - Sold
1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed
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Sounds like a fine idea. I really liked the 5.2/46RH combo in our old ZJ.'85 J20 Old Man Truck, bought @ 65K miles - not great, but better than walking.
Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association
High quality junk here: intro thread and slow build thread
Did you know? Willys is just Willis spelled differently, but pronounced the same. Neither Willy nor his apostrophe are involved.
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Having driven 5.9 ZJ's (and actually built one of the first ones for a Jeep promo thing at Pikes Peak in 1993) and driving around this 4.7 equipped WJ, I gotta say I like the 4.7 a lot better. It makes better HP and the same torque as the 5.9 Magnum. I think the 4.7HO drivetrain out of a 2002-2005 WJ would be a cool swap.
Then again, there is the new V6 diesel from the Ram 1500 trucks. Now THAT would be a cool swap into a SJ.-87 Grand, 6.5L diesel, MHI TE06H turbo, Water/air intercooler, Art Carr 700R4, CS-130, hydroboost. 21/24mpg, dead 229 [Custom 242 on the way]
-99 XJ Limited.
-Jeepspeed 1717 -Built 4.0, FAST EFI, Rubicon Express, Bilstein, Rigid Industries, 4 Wheel Parts, G2 Axle, Currie Enterprises
-Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association
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The 4.7L in the WJ gets nearly 20 mpg, essentially the same as the 4.0L.Tim Reese
Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk
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Originally posted by tgreeseThe 4.7L in the WJ gets nearly 20 mpg, essentially the same as the 4.0L.'85 J20 Old Man Truck, bought @ 65K miles - not great, but better than walking.
Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association
High quality junk here: intro thread and slow build thread
Did you know? Willys is just Willis spelled differently, but pronounced the same. Neither Willy nor his apostrophe are involved.
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For the sake of the conversation, if you're going to dream, dream big. Check out this bad boy. Complete package! $4K for an essentially brand new 2015 Dodge Durango 5.7 Hemi engine, 8 speed transmission, and transfer case. Only 1000 miles! This is an unbelievable deal. Anyone even thinking about such a swap, if they have the bucks, should jump on this deal. It's a job to find a decent engine and transmission take out combo, especially an LS engine and trans, let alone with a transfer case, for that price. I've been thinking of a L76/6L80 swap, but this, wow, if only my finances were a little better I wouldn't have bothered posting this, it would be mine. That thing would be beautiful sitting in the engine bay.
Last edited by vajeepj20; 11-18-2015, 08:27 PM.
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Originally posted by tgreeseThe 4.7L in the WJ gets nearly 20 mpg, essentially the same as the 4.0L.
At the risk of being pedantic, it might be more accurate to say that the 4.7 can get nearly 20 MPG in the WJ. Same engine in an SJ would obviously be different (worse) owing to the laughable aerodynamics of the older vehicle.-87 Grand, 6.5L diesel, MHI TE06H turbo, Water/air intercooler, Art Carr 700R4, CS-130, hydroboost. 21/24mpg, dead 229 [Custom 242 on the way]
-99 XJ Limited.
-Jeepspeed 1717 -Built 4.0, FAST EFI, Rubicon Express, Bilstein, Rigid Industries, 4 Wheel Parts, G2 Axle, Currie Enterprises
-Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association
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Originally posted by vajeepj20For the sake of the conversation, if you're going to dream, dream big. Check out this bad boy. Complete package! $4K for an essentially brand new 2015 Dodge Durango 5.7 Hemi engine, 8 speed transmission, and transfer case. Only 1000 miles! This is an unbelievable deal. Anyone even thinking about such a swap, if they have the bucks, should jump on this deal. It's a job to find a decent engine and transmission take out combo, especially an LS engine and trans, let alone with a transfer case, for that price. I've been thinking of a L76/6L80 swap, but this, wow, if only my finances were a little better I wouldn't have bothered posting this, it would be mine. That thing would be beautiful sitting in the engine bay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hemi-Durango...BVy5Qa&vxp=mtr-87 Grand, 6.5L diesel, MHI TE06H turbo, Water/air intercooler, Art Carr 700R4, CS-130, hydroboost. 21/24mpg, dead 229 [Custom 242 on the way]
-99 XJ Limited.
-Jeepspeed 1717 -Built 4.0, FAST EFI, Rubicon Express, Bilstein, Rigid Industries, 4 Wheel Parts, G2 Axle, Currie Enterprises
-Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association
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Hemi is out of the question. Too new and expensive for me. I never liked the 4.7, always had horrible cooling system issues with the ones I've encountered as an auto mechanic.-Jonny B.
1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker
1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
1979 Wagoneer - Sold
1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed
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Though I am not a fan of the Magnum, I think you are on the right track. Think outside the box (that is how I ended up with the diesel).-87 Grand, 6.5L diesel, MHI TE06H turbo, Water/air intercooler, Art Carr 700R4, CS-130, hydroboost. 21/24mpg, dead 229 [Custom 242 on the way]
-99 XJ Limited.
-Jeepspeed 1717 -Built 4.0, FAST EFI, Rubicon Express, Bilstein, Rigid Industries, 4 Wheel Parts, G2 Axle, Currie Enterprises
-Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association
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just find that popular mechanics GW they built and buy it.Originally posted by HankrodRistows right.................again,
Originally posted by Fasts79Chief... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.
Originally posted by Fasts79ChiefI LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!
It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...
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Originally posted by Ristowjust find that popular mechanics GW they built and buy it.-Jonny B.
1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker
1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
1979 Wagoneer - Sold
1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed
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