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Old 06-27-2015, 09:58 AM
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Absolute minimum lift for 35s

Hello. Im new to the fsj world, I just got an 87 gw and I'm getting ready to lift it up. I have a set of 35 12.5 15 km2s off of a wrangler I sold that will be going under the wagon. From what I've read Rustys 6" and some trimming will clear 35s. My question is can I get away with a shorter lift and maybe a little more ? I Rolled the 35s next to the stock tires and a 6" lift seems excessive. But I yield to experience. Thanks!
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Old 06-27-2015, 10:50 AM
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So I had this same debate and ended up throwing together what I could at the time but still ended up coming out with about 6" of lift and cleared 35's (315/75/16 a little short). I have a 4" lift, 1" body lift and extended shackles up front and 1" zero rate spring in the rear. I've thought about taking out the extended shackles and zero rate spring but I like the wheel travel and stance it has as it sits. I have trimmed the front and rear substantially but I think it has come out looking very good. It has proven to be very stable on the trail. With some chevy springs in the rear, giving me a bit more droop, I'll have a very capable rig.




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Old 06-27-2015, 10:59 AM
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I Like it, where'd you source the lift?
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:05 AM
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The springs are rusty's 4" springs. I highly suggest just buying the springs though and picking up some better shocks. I'm also on 1 tons, thus the wider stance. With stock axles or a bit larger backspacing the rear would stuff very nicely.
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:17 AM
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Thanks, and awesome rig man
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Old 03-01-2017, 04:05 PM
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I'm thinking of doing something similar but i'm on an really tight budget and i have some questions. What did the setup cost you? What shocks should i use? where did you get the shackles and body lift? Also, what trimming was needed? Could i save money by skipping on the body lift and/or shackles and trade for a little more hammering and cutting?

Thank you, Cameron
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Old 03-02-2017, 02:24 AM
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What year is your rig? Generally, you need a 6" lift plus 2-3" body lift in order to fit 35's without doing any cutting. Others have 4" lift only but they did some serious trimming. Try 4wheelonline. They have different brands/sizes of suspension and body lifts.
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Old 03-02-2017, 01:32 PM
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Yeah, a few variables here:

Do you have a WideTrack? If so, you don't need as much lift to fit bigger tires.
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Old 03-05-2017, 10:53 AM
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I have a 77 wagoneer with quadra trac and low range reduction, im not sure if it has wide track or not.
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:21 PM
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Waggies are not widetrack. Jtrucks and MOST Cherokee's are widetrack. They have noticeable fender flares and MUCH bigger rear wheel openings.
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My budget is like 1500, I was thinking about getting treadwrights because it makes all the other tires seem like a rip off. I was also looking at rustys off road lift kits
https://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-s...sion-lift-kits I don't know if it's worth the extra for full springs or get an add a lift, or if I should get the 6inch lift for more flex.
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6" lift springs will reduce flex significantly. Do some research on SOA (front) and shackle flip (rear).
Ride like OE, lots flex.
The 6" spring lift I had zero flex up front, very little in rear, and tore the front springs hangers from the frame.
Worst thing I ever did to any FSJ.
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Old 03-10-2017, 05:23 AM
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Ice heard soa kits require a longer drive shift, would I still have to do this? Also what should I do for springs?
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Old 03-10-2017, 04:55 PM
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Ice heard soa kits require a longer drive shift, would I still have to do this? Also what should I do for springs?

stock springs can used

IIRC there is a JY front shaft that's a bolt in and correct length.

Use google to search...LOTS of info on SOA
If you want lift and big tires and flex, way better than just lift springs.

site:ifsja.org SOA
the above punched into google search will net you lots of reading
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