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  • Gramps Old Jeep
    258 I6
    • Jul 23, 2005
    • 495

    Question on Just Purchased Rusty's lift

    I just received Rusty's 4" add a leaf kit for my 1974 J-10 and I have a few questions.

    First, were they supposed to send me a full set of U bolts? I received four matching ones that I think fit the front, then another three that are long and skinny, then two that are in between the other two sets. The description on their website includes u-bolts so I thought I was supposed to get them.

    Second, the spring eyes on the front are 44.5" eye to eye. I measured the ones on the truck and they are 48" eye to eye. But they are pretty sacked out and the front shackle is pushed all the way forward. Do you think these will fit?

    Finally, Rusty's instructions are cryptic at best. Where does the add-a-leaf go? In between the the two old rear leafs? On the bottom? It says they should go longest to shortest but I cannot tell if it is longer or shorter with the arc.

    Also, how do the lift blocks fit into this? Their instructions do not even address that.

    Thanks

    [ August 03, 2005, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: Gramps Old Jeep ]
    1974 J-10, AMC 360
    4" Lift, 305/70/16's, Mickey Thompson Classics
    Megasquirt II, V3.0 Board, Relay Board, V 2.36 Code. GM TBI, 55# Injectors
    Duraspark With TFI Cap, HEI External Coil, GM 8 Pin Module
  • mudslider
    304 AMC
    • Sep 26, 2004
    • 2484

    #2
    i have a rustys 6" lift on my 83 j10 and the directions were aweful. it took two days and getting some great info on here and 2 calls to them to figure them out. yes you are supposed to get u bolts and nuts for them... the lift blocks on mine went skinny side front at least on the 6".
    P.J
    Stupidity rules at all times! Famous last words "Hey, watch this" Its 5:00 Somewhere. 1983 J10 In process: 360 ci install

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    • Tad
      • Nov 30, 2001
      • 17618

      #3
      Your ubolts for the front should be about like this.
      Tube side = 3" wide
      Diff Side = 3 5/8" wide
      It just happens that there is an different FSJ diff side setup (should not be in '74) so they may have tossed in an extra 3" wide one to be safe.
      The rear would be four matching ones, probably the longest, since they have to add the block and AAL into the math. They should be about 3" wide also.

      Unlike most things Ubolts are measured from the inside, not center to ceter, they should have all come with nuts and hardened washers.

      Here are the torque #'s since I doubt they gave you that also.
      2000 Infinity QX4, 3.3L, MPFI, 4 speed auto, 2 speed Nissan tcase, Unibody, IFS front, 4 link rear solid axle with 255-70/16s

      IFSJA WMS PROJECT
      EARLY WAG LIFT SEARCH

      ...Pay no attention to these heathen barbarians with their cutting torches and 8" lift kits!...
      Self Inflicted Flesh Wound

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      • Gramps Old Jeep
        258 I6
        • Jul 23, 2005
        • 495

        #4
        Tad:

        I think you are right about the set up.

        However I received no washers and no shock boots.

        Does anyone know how to put the blocks in? Seems lame Rusty's couldn't find the time to write instructions.
        1974 J-10, AMC 360
        4" Lift, 305/70/16's, Mickey Thompson Classics
        Megasquirt II, V3.0 Board, Relay Board, V 2.36 Code. GM TBI, 55# Injectors
        Duraspark With TFI Cap, HEI External Coil, GM 8 Pin Module

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        • Tad
          • Nov 30, 2001
          • 17618

          #5
          Originally posted by Gramps Old Jeep:
          ...I received no washers and no shock boots...
          Cute, he must intend for you to reuse yours
          I'm not saying that's wrong but it does seem sort of cheep.

          Here's the address and phone for a Dayton Distrbutor in San Diego:
          SAN DIEGO FRICTON PRODUCTS
          455 16TH STREET
          SAN DIEGO, CA 92101
          (619) 232-9164

          See if they can not get you some new U-bolt washers, if not, try a spring shop.
          Do not use lock washers, U-bolt washers are different.

          Shock boots are available at most all quicky part places.

          The blocks go at the very bottom between the axle perch and the lowest spring. Should be a pin on the bottom of the block that fits the hole on the spring perch, then a hole on the top of the block that the pin on the bottom of the spring pack drops into.
          2000 Infinity QX4, 3.3L, MPFI, 4 speed auto, 2 speed Nissan tcase, Unibody, IFS front, 4 link rear solid axle with 255-70/16s

          IFSJA WMS PROJECT
          EARLY WAG LIFT SEARCH

          ...Pay no attention to these heathen barbarians with their cutting torches and 8" lift kits!...
          Self Inflicted Flesh Wound

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          • 2nd Day
            FSJ Bird Man
            • Nov 08, 2002
            • 8544

            #6
            You might get on the BJ's Off-Road Forum, they carry some of Rusty's products and may be able to help, even if you didnt buy it from them.
            ""In God We Trust"
            87 Grand Waggy
            Co-Founder of the ECI
            My son asked:
            Why does Daddy always buy the Jeeps that break down a lot?"

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            • Gramps Old Jeep
              258 I6
              • Jul 23, 2005
              • 495

              #7
              Thanks guys.

              Do you know which direction the blocks go? Thin side front or rear?
              1974 J-10, AMC 360
              4" Lift, 305/70/16's, Mickey Thompson Classics
              Megasquirt II, V3.0 Board, Relay Board, V 2.36 Code. GM TBI, 55# Injectors
              Duraspark With TFI Cap, HEI External Coil, GM 8 Pin Module

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              • mudslider
                304 AMC
                • Sep 26, 2004
                • 2484

                #8
                the skinny parts of the blocks go to the front. if there is a smaller end for a 4". rustys doesnt come with boots. and the directions are something to be desired.
                P.J
                Stupidity rules at all times! Famous last words "Hey, watch this" Its 5:00 Somewhere. 1983 J10 In process: 360 ci install

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                • Gramps Old Jeep
                  258 I6
                  • Jul 23, 2005
                  • 495

                  #9
                  Thanks guys
                  1974 J-10, AMC 360
                  4" Lift, 305/70/16's, Mickey Thompson Classics
                  Megasquirt II, V3.0 Board, Relay Board, V 2.36 Code. GM TBI, 55# Injectors
                  Duraspark With TFI Cap, HEI External Coil, GM 8 Pin Module

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                  • JeepNOFEAR
                    350 Buick
                    • Nov 09, 2004
                    • 1406

                    #10
                    go bjs
                    76 Cherokee Camo(Parts)
                    76 Cherokee Camo 401/TH400/Dana300/HD44/14bolt/36s
                    77 Cherokee blue 360/T18/D20/33s
                    1969 AMC Javelin SST 390
                    1968 AMC Javelin SST 290 (Parts)

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                    • Stuka
                      • Jan 21, 2001
                      • 13743

                      #11
                      Boots can be problematic as well. They keep HWY debree from scratching the rod yes, but go into mud, and they are great at keeping mud IN the boot, causing far more wear on the shock.

                      [ August 10, 2005, 05:09 PM: Message edited by: Stuka ]

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                      • Josh D
                        360 AMC
                        • Jan 17, 2002
                        • 2873

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tadsal:
                        </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gramps Old Jeep:
                        ...I received no washers and no shock boots...
                        Cute, he must intend for you to reuse yours
                        I'm not saying that's wrong but it does seem sort of cheep.

                        </font>[/QUOTE]Just an FYI, both my '88 and '86 parts wag did not come from the factory with u-bolt washers. It was nut to plate. Can't vouch for other years.
                        '71 J2000 Gladiator
                        '95 YJ on Waggy axles
                        '80 911 Super Carrera

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                        • Stuka
                          • Jan 21, 2001
                          • 13743

                          #13
                          I have never seen u-bolt washers on any spring lift that I have put on for any vehicle. I am thinking a PO put those on.

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