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Old 12-31-2017, 10:58 AM
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1986 GW-Restoration+TFI-Slow Build

So, I have a 1986 GW in mostly stock form. Comes stock with 5.9, etc. Rear AMC20. Selectro Hubs in the front. I purchased this from a car auction which my father-in-law owns and operates in TN. My initial investment was pretty low as it has the dreaded frame rot and 180k miles on original powertrain. I have a monthly fun money budget of only $250 to spend on whatever I want, so that will be going directly to the waggy from here on out. My build plan is mostly get it functional and mostly rust-free. I am not trying to do any major mods. With a rusted frame that will be patched, I am under no illusions of this turning into one of those 50k restorations. I just want to make it look good, run reliably, and of the quality that I can take it to some small town car shows and not be too embarrassed by it. I am not a car professional by any means; I am a school teacher. However, I am trying to learn and do most of this on my own with help from here, friends, family, and other forums. I will be going slowly, and any help, comments, or encouragement is appreciated.

Initial plan of progression
1. Frame Patch-kit from TGW
2. Engine/Trans removal
a. seals, cleaning, basic not rebuild overhaul of wear parts
3. Blast and repaint frame
4. Running parts-brakes, axles
5. interior
a. floor pans, seat stitching, armrest
6. exterior body

This will take probably a couple years, maybe more, who knows what kind of surprises I will get it. Thanks for the follow.
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:23 PM
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So,I got a bunch of odds and ends stuff started today. Wiper arms removed and repainted, plug wires removed, TFI distributor cap and coils mounted, and my new ignition box possibly wired up.
I got an Accel 61212 for Christmas from the wife, who is supportive of my current addiction, and I have been trying to figure out how to wire it up.

I found this on here from the tech library. It it what I should do?
You will have seven wires coming out from your MSD 6A

One heavy red - goes to +12v
One heavy black - goes to good ground point
small red - this goes to the wire that was originally on the coils + terminal (or ignintion switched +12v)
orange - goes to +coil
small black - goes to -coil
white goes to the wire that was originally connected to the -coil IF you are using your original ignition amplifier. If you intend to use your MSD as the only ignition amplifier the white on is not used.
The last on is the magnetic trigger connection, this will have a plug that will connect to the plug off your distributor. If this is not the case there is one green and one violet wire that goes to this plug, one goes to the +trigger connection and the other goes to the -trigger. If you connect these wrong, no harm will happened but your timing will be way off
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:36 PM
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Here is a couple of pics the Jeep.
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:07 AM
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I got a bunch of parts for Christmas this year, and as my wiper motor did not work at all, a freebie was a nice gift. Installation was simple.
1. Unplug
2. Take Three exterior bolts out
3. Go into the dash. Way back near the firewall is a metal bar with a j-clip on it. Remove it. Pull metal bar off. There will be a nut that is in the middle of the three bolts that you already removed. Remove it. I think it was something like 14mm. Can't remember exactly.
4. Pull out old motor.
5. Remove gasket
6. Remove final screws
7. Reverse process with new motor.

I chose to solder mine back up. I do not like plug connectors at all. They just look like an accident waiting to happen, and I have been soldering for many years and I just enjoy it. Here is a picture of the completed motor.
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Old 01-06-2018, 12:33 PM
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Alright well, it is time to start dealing with the nasty side of things. I have a good bit of rot on the frame, so I am getting ready to pull the complete driveline and the tank and start with the frame restore. I am currently working on getting the bolts that hold the tank out. I have PB Blasted the bejesus out of them, but that has been mostly ineffective. I am weary of cutting them as I will be sending sparks directly near the fuel tank. Anyways, here is what I am up against. I have the kit from TGW, so I will post pictures during the process.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:49 AM
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great outdoors wagoneer

hello,

i like your wagoneer, especially the color.

looks like the one in the john candy/ dan akroyd movie

"the great outdoors"

i admire your determination,....

you got one repair done already,

good job.

keep us posted , thanx for the photos.

dave in NC
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:29 PM
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Thanks for the reply. It is slow going while I am waiting on a tool to get here. I have a buddy who is coming over next saturday to remove engine, trans, the tank, pretty much everything. Once I get that going, I should be able to make some serious progress. Tank removal is a PITA. All the bolts are extremely rusted, but I am afraid about using a cutoff wheel that close to the tank. I don't want to blow anyone or anything up, so I bought a bolt cut-off tool and am going to try it this Sunday if I get time.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:00 AM
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sounds good
i am a cautious person too,...
fire = bad,...
explosion = worse !!!

glad to hear your wife is supportive too, makes things less stressful
and you both will enjoy it once done.

and you will be even more proud of it
since you are doing work yourself.

good luck and be careful.

keep us informed.

dave in NC
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:14 PM
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Didn't get much done this weekend since it was my birthday and we were away, but with a little patience I was able to get all of the nuts off and removed from the tank today. All that is left is the actual physical removal of it. Engine, trans, transfer and tank go out this coming sat and it is off for some frame patch. Gonna winch it up the rollback and take it up to the big shop for some that. I will post a bunch of pics. Thanks for follows and Keep on Jeepin' on.
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Well, I had big plans, but apparently getting your wisdom teeth is a big of a PITA! So, no heavy work for me this weekend. However, I did get some small stuff done. I removed and finished installing a modern CD player in the car with AUX so that the wife will have something other than Neil Young to listen to. Also, I am looking for a part for the dash. In the second and third picture, you will see what I mean that I need. It was like that when I bought it. I am open to some custom work if need be.

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