Rhino Line/Hercu Line the interior floor

[rayray311]

Hey All

I have decent carpet inside my 88 GW...except for all the stains. Although I live in the PNW and I notice that when IM opening and closing my doors throughout the rainy season it is getting my floor carpet wet, and keeping it wet for weeks on end until we get a dry spell and it gets a chance to dry out.

Im nervous about the carpet staying wet and causing problems underneath it like rust etc. I was contemplating pulling out all the floor carpeting on the front and back seat floor and rhinolining/herculining it instead.

Anyone ever do this? happy with results?

Good Idea?

Any opinions appreciated.

Ray

[joe]

First off I personally hate bedliner goop in a car. Don't even like it in a pickup bed. Buts that's just me.
You're correct about continually soaked carpet rusting the floor boards. Seriously doubt you getting in/out allows the carpet to stay soaked. Maybe at the door sills but not the floorboards. Odds are your fresh air kick panel vent drains are plugged and rain water is over flowing soaking your carpet. Get into the vents, clean out the leaves, pine needles, muck and run a wire down the drains to open'em up. Not sure on an 88 but if you have the plastic drain plugs in the floorboards...throw those away and let moisture drain. At that time you'll also be able to determine the condition of your floorboards.

[rayray311]

First off I personally hate bedliner goop in a car. Don't even like it in a pickup bed. Buts that's just me.
You're correct about continually soaked carpet rusting the floor boards. Seriously doubt you getting in/out allows the carpet to stay soaked. Maybe at the door sills but not the floorboards. Odds are your fresh air kick panel vent drains are plugged and rain water is over flowing soaking your carpet. Get into the vents, clean out the leaves, pine needles, muck and run a wire down the drains to open'em up. Not sure on an 88 but if you have the plastic drain plugs in the floorboards...throw those away and let moisture drain. At that time you'll also be able to determine the condition of your floorboards.

Well when its drizzling and im getting into my 2 doors multiple times a day some rain gets the carpet wet, along with dripping water from right above the door dripping down from the roof and dripping directly onto the edge of my carpeting. ive been watching to see how it gets wet, and this seems to be the case.
although can definitely be coming from another source like that.

can u give me more detail about what the
fresh air kick panel vent drain is. im trying to look it up online with no success

thanks

[joe]

can u give me more detail about what the
fresh air kick panel vent drain is. im trying to look it up online with no success

thanks

Where the footwell meets the vertical part of the body is where the cable operated fresh air vents are (aka kick panel). There's one on drivers and passenger kick panels. Ya can't miss'em.

[44BZ]

I put Herculiner on the floor of my Jtruck shortly after I replaced the floors due to rust through. Then later I covered it with a generic FatMat sound deadener and added a carpet kit because it started getting dirty and grungy looking. I don't regret doing it and I don't have to worry too much about rust coming back, but adding the FatMat and carpet kit was a big improvement.

[rayray311]

Where the footwell meets the vertical part of the body is where the cable operated fresh air vents are (aka kick panel). There's one on drivers and passenger kick panels. Ya can't miss'em.

right to the left of the parking brake...perfect...ill peek around there this weekend a bit.

thanx for the help

[rayray311]

I put Herculiner on the floor of my Jtruck shortly after I replaced the floors due to rust through. Then later I covered it with a generic FatMat sound deadener and added a carpet kit because it started getting dirty and grungy looking. I don't regret doing it and I don't have to worry too much about rust coming back, but adding the FatMat and carpet kit was a big improvement.

Where did ya get the Fat Mat and Carpet Kit? I see many places that sell the fat mat...but not the carpet kit.

That's a good idea to pull out carpet...rustproof and rhino line it then recarpet

[44BZ]

Where did ya get the Fat Mat and Carpet Kit? I see many places that sell the fat mat...but not the carpet kit.

That's a good idea to pull out carpet...rustproof and rhino line it then recarpet

If I remember right I ordered the sound deadener through Amazon. It's the foil stuff with heavy asphalt-like tar on the back. Pretty easy to work with. Just cut to fit, stick it on, and smooth it out with the supplied roller.

The carpet kit I bought off ebay. I think I only paid $160 and got free shipping. It was the best deal I could find and I've been happy with it. I think BJs offers the carpet kits as well.

[rang-a-stang]

Read these for your vent:

http://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=177690

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=172035

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=108121

http://forums.ifsja.org/showthread.php?t=179270

[rayray311]

Read these for your vent:

http://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=177690

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=172035

http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=108121

http://forums.ifsja.org/showthread.php?t=179270

awesome...thanks

[Crankyolman]

I have the same problem here in Seattle, everything is so wet all the time the inside gets wet. I know it happens from my boots because I've fixed the door leaks and the top of my floor mats are often very wet right under the gas pedal. That's not to say it can't be coming from other places as well, I found one of those other places on mine just the other day, but there is a LOT of rain here in the winter. I also plan on bed linering my floorboards before adding carpet or anything else just as an extra layer of protection. Mine actually came with some sort of black undercoating on the floorboards that if it wasn't factory it was done when the truck was new and managed to protect those floorboards for 45 in the PNW and I would like them to last another 45.

[ShagWagon]

I pulled it all out and rustolium and spots, rhinolinered mine two coats and put the carpet back on.

I would do it again. Good for soundproof and moisture barrier. Also cleaned out all the debris from my air vent, rustoliumed in there.

[SOLSAKS]

for my two cents worth:

20 years ago i restored a 1978 K-5 Blazer
i had it lined with truck bed liner, the rubberized kind

i primed the floor with eastwoods "corroless" now called rust encapsulator.

then i took it to the bed liner guy,....

he sprayed from firewall all the way to the back to tailgate opening.

i ran it like that a few years, then added carpet.

recently i removed the sill plates to polish them, and i found the bed liner

near the door seals can be peeled up like a sheet of rubber,...

and moisture has crept in under the rubber causing surface rust about 6

inches in.

water will find the smallest opening and get in there.....

overall it is not a bad idea, but make sure you get good adhesion,

by sanding or wire brushing the surface so the coating will hold tight.

dave in NC

[SJTD]

I've had a moisture cured urethane in my CJ for at least 10 years. Can't recall the brand off hand but it isn't one of the big names.

No cracking or peeling. Has faded.

One of these days I'm going to give it another coat of Durabak without the rubber granules added.

The key is proper prep and urethane, not vinyl or some other material that's sold.

[rang-a-stang]

I used (I think) Eastwood's rubber undercoating to do the interior floorboards on my old Falcon Wagon and my car smelled like tar for 6 months. If you use anything, make sure it doesn't stink.