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Old 04-08-2010, 08:04 PM
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The I'm not too good at naming build threads Cherokee build

Well, now that it is getting warmer and I can actually go outside and do stuff, I figured that I'd start a thread on my 76 Cherokee.
A little background:
I've been around NAXJA for years and have a Very well equipped XJ. I wheeled the snot out of it all over the country, but it was built for Northwest wheeling. I was transferred from Ft Lewis WA to Ft Dix last year and because of my schedule and life, have only wheeled ONCE since moving.

Enter the J-10. My first FSJ. I loved this thing, but due to a series of unfortunate circumstances, it ended up being donated to CRAWL magazine right before its demise. It didn't make it to the rebirth.


I've always loved FSJ's but there was always something going on, too many vehicles, or not enough room so it went to the back burner.
After wheeling the 'Con last August, I started looking for a new ride. I'd always wanted a Cherokee, but the ones up here are usually rusted to hell and worthless. I found one from VA that was for sale by another Servicemember and headed down.
AMC 360, T-18 4 speed, Dana 20 TC, HD44/Dana 60 geared to 4.11, 8 lug axles. The guy threw in a set of H2 wheels too.




The body was rust free, the engine needed work, and the interior was mostly there but I was ready to pay a premium for a rust free body. I dragged her home behind the diesel. Before I even picked it up, I had plans for this thing.
Original plans:
Freshen up the 360
4bbl carb and aftermarket intake
headers
flowmaster
Hydroboost
6" lift (springover front/shackle flip rear)
Crossover/hi-steer
HEI ignition
Modern interior upgrades (yet to be determined)
As the weather grew colder I started collecting parts here and there.
Holley Street Dominator 300-31z manifold and TT SOA/SF

Hydroboost from a 2002 Chevy silverado (Elliott)
New steering components, ball joints, TRE's brakes, brake lines (I LOVE rock auto)
I found a Holley 4160 in a local JY for 35.00 and rebuilt it (lets hope it works!)
I also fell into a great deal on an AMC 360 from Hammered (member), and snatched it up. (Thanks again Brad!) before the winter of 2010. Nothing happened over the winter except wishful thinking.
On to better weather.
I cleaned up the replacement motor in preparation to just swap it with the original. (the original was knocking and backfiring) On a sunny day a few weeks ago I pulled the motor with my dad. (sorry no pics) After I got into the motor, I noticed that the pushrod on the #2 Cylinder was broken in two places and it looked like it was severely neglected over the last 34 years


The new(er) motor however looked wonderful, so after slapping the intake, carb, and some paint on I was ready to tackle the engine bay.


Old and new(er)

Engine out, Hydroboost in, and a bunch of work to do....


There was some really NASTY goop all over this Jeep. Time to go in....


I ended up using some 3M "Professional Grade" undercoating and made everything all one color. At some time in the Jeeps life, it was literally dipped in undercoating; the only thing that wasn't sprayed was the engine bay. This stuff went on great, and is not tacky at all.
Looking a little better now, I'll update with pics later.
So thanks for looking; I plan to have this ready for the Jeff Daniels Jeep show this year.
If anyone has an idea for a name for this build, please chime in.
John
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:11 PM
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wow... nice find...
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:16 PM
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Good Looking Cherokee! Looks like J20 axles under it. Thanks for sharing. How about Ole Green Teeth?

Seeing those kind freeze plugs on the old motor always give me the heebee jeebees. What is that piece between the oil filter adapter and the oil filter on the newer motor?

It will be nice to get into tshirt weather here and get some stuff done outside like that.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:22 PM
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What is that piece between the oil filter adapter and the oil filter on the newer motor?

Oil cooler. The original was shot, but I have a Tranny Cooler from a Ford truck that should fit the bill nicely.

I also found a CS 144 from a caddy that I'll be installing.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:58 PM
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Looking good. That old engine looked beat!
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:07 PM
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Jealousy!

Great find.
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Old 04-09-2010, 07:42 AM
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At least someone is getting to work on their Chero.
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Actually, now that I think about it, that could be either awesome or really terrible.


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Old 04-09-2010, 08:54 AM
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Nice lookin biuld!!!!


Jolly jeep giant! I'm not good at naming biuld either.
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Old 04-09-2010, 09:28 AM
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What a great truck to start with! Love the drivetrain combo!

I'd call it J20C for J20 Cherokee.

BTW, that Bridgeport IPA is goooood stuff!
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:41 PM
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Nice Chero! I think I saw that one somewhere....someone must have posted a link to it or something. It's getting bad when most of the time that you see a pic of someones FSJ I think....hmmm...I think I've seen that one before

You make me nervous with that arm hanging out of your XJ. I was on a trail with a guy who snapped his arm doing that Took lots of screws and rods to fix it .

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Old 04-09-2010, 01:58 PM
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nice cherokee, its funny it looks as if the old 360 had been at the bottom of the ocean. now is the time to eliminate all that prestolite stuff and go HEI.
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Old 04-09-2010, 02:04 PM
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Nice lookin biuld!!!!


Jolly jeep giant! I'm not good at naming biuld either.


Close to what I was thinking, add lift and tires and call it the jolly green giant
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Old 04-09-2010, 03:34 PM
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Nice Chero! I think I saw that one somewhere....someone must have posted a link to it or something. It's getting bad when most of the time that you see a pic of someones FSJ I think....hmmm...I think I've seen that one before

You make me nervous with that arm hanging out of your XJ. I was on a trail with a guy who snapped his arm doing that Took lots of screws and rods to fix it .

Dean

I have posted my Jeep earlier, but not as a build thread.

I agree with the arm thing. I wasn't thinking at the time. My 5yo daughter was riding shotgun w/me and IIRC I was paying more attention to her screaming bloody murder about dying than arm placement.
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Old 04-11-2010, 07:50 PM
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Not too much this weekend.
I picked up my flywheel from the machine shop (I had it resurfaced) and also picked up a new clutch kit. I figured that I'd only like to do this once so I might as well do it right.
Based on a friend's recommendation, I turned the new(er) motor upside down on the stand and pulled the pan to check the bearings. To my suprise, I found this:

Whatever it is/was I have no idea. It is non-metallic, looks like it started out as a circular something, and coated the pickup and bottom of the pan. Thank god for screens!
Luckily the bearings and everything else looked okay, so I'm now waiting on the (apparently) elusive full engine gasket set.
I did however trade my original brushguard to BBB, who drove his Wagoneer all the way from Virginia :shock:
Once the gasket kit comes in, I'll slap the motor together and slide her in.
Thanks for looking,
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I'm liking "Jolly Green" and have thought about "Weekend Warrior" since I ONLY get to work on this on the weekends. Ideas?
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:46 PM
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Valve stem seals?

That is a lot of crud.
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:34 PM
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Update w/o pics (for now)

After several weeks of pretty much nonstop work, I had a few days off.
The elusive full gasket kit came in....incomplete of course....which held things off for yet another week.

The engine, finally complete, went in; screaming, cussing, smashed fingers, broken skin and all. My "crew" never showed that day so I ended up doing it myself with some help from the wifey. NEVER AGAIN!!!

The wiring harness...oh the hacked up, duct-taped wiring harness...was patched together into something useable. I wired in the electric choke and HEI as best as I could and made it look a little like it should.

If anyone has seen a FSJ vacuum diagram you can feel my pain. I trashed everything but the essentials.

After checking and rechecking everything, I went to fire it up. Crank, VROOM!!!!
MUSIC TO MY EARS!!!!!
I swear the Jeep gods were looking down on me, because the eyeballed timing was spot on. The idle mixture was very close, and the idle speed was dead on too. Aside from a little tweaking, this thing is purring like a kitten on catnip.

Things to do:
Bleed the hydroboost
Tweak the carb
Fix a wierd electrical problem that causes the marker lights to go on when brake is pressed
Tidy up engine compartment
Run electrical and lines for OBA (York)
Lift the darn thing
Order tires and wheels
Finish Hi-Steer
Align

Oh yeah...register "Jolly Green" as a classic so I don't have to get an emissions test
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Old 05-15-2010, 10:23 AM
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Great to her she fired right up!!! That stuff on the oil pickup looks like gasket material of some kind. God knows from where. sure is a lot of it.


The wifey not to keen on workin on the ol jeep?!! hehe
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Old 05-15-2010, 12:48 PM
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gasket material

I had the same type of thing with my truck. It wouldn't hold oil pressure except at idle. Pulled the oil pan, and found the pickup tube was plugged with the same kind of stuff. Cleaned it out and now it holds pressure just fine.
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:45 AM
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Another rescued Cherokee. Nice find!
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GOOD PIX AND NICE JEEP. PS MY WIFES THE SAME WAY. MIKE 12
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