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Old 12-29-2012, 12:34 PM
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People don't know how to charge them in recovery, so they throw them away. The seller must know how!

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Why the Optimas are all over Craigslist like refurbs for about half the price. I assumed they are rejects but there are tons of them around here.
They are still not 55 bucks though that is scary.
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I got burnt 3 times with Intermistakes. Won't play again. They tried to claim I had a parasitic loss in the vehicle that killed the batteries overnight, yet the old battery lived fine in there for a week. It was just too weak for cold weather.
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The stock battery in the wife's '07 Nissan took a dump after just a few years so she had an Autozone Duralast battery put in. That one took a dump after 1-2 years (went flat dead, wouldn't take/hold a charge) but replaced under warranty. The warranty also took a dump after 1-2 years, same as original one. Now this warranty Duracrap was flagged as a bad battery (1-2 years old as well) by the Nissan shop after taking it in for a transmission issue (alleged to be caused...by the bad battery. yeah.) so I swapped in one of my good Wal-Fart batteries and took her Duracrap into the '20.

Her Nissan cranks noticeably faster during starts and a few times now I'm not sure the '20 is going to start. Noticeably weak crank and volt meter shows around 10-11 volts at idle when the 10SI alternator stops charging. Sure it may be arguable that the Nissan is eating batteries but we'll know for sure after we run this 2-3+ year old WM battery in it, and for good measure I won't touch another Duralast battery.

Talked to the sales monkey in a nearby Interstate store about warranty replacement on Optimas, got a good "uhhhhhhhhh.... (rifles through sales literature and brochures).... uhhhhh..... Says here you have to have a receipt." Okay, cool, thanks. I have three dead Optimas sitting on my garage floor.
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Old 01-03-2013, 08:27 AM
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I have had two failed red tops. Was going to switch to a diehard platinum this go round, but would be eating the $180 since mine is still under warranty. I think ill trade up to a yellow top this time sinc it seems others have had better luck with them.
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:57 PM
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My wife's Yukon has been having trouble starting, sporadically. Battery checked out at advance and Firestone. Took it back to advance today, they tested battery, alternator and starter. Battery tested 536/800 CCA. They said take it back to Costco. I was ready for a hassle, while Costco argued about it being bad . It had a 36 month free/100 month prorated warranty, and was about 26 months old. .

Instead, they accepted me at my word, didn't even ask what made me think it was bad. Told me to yank it out of car, bring it in, they'd put what I paid for it on a cash card, go get a new one, use the cash card to pay for it and a manager would adjust the price, so I effectively just swapped it out, no questions. Didn't even need the receipt, they looked it up.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:56 AM
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JP mag' had a battery test this past month. They tested the premium batteries,Northstar, 2 Diehards (1 AGM), Odyssey and yellow Optima. Short story is: the Northstar was the 2nd most expensive but easily won. While the Diehard AGM tied with the Odessey and cost $100 less. The Optima was only better than the wet Diehardand and cost more than both the Diehards. Only the $220 Diehard had a 4 yr replacement warranty. True, every battery from the same manufacture is a little different and possibly the Optima was a dude---but...Maybe it's only an average battery compared to the others. I still think the Free Replacement warranty is what you should shop for. Also, I live in Fl and like Texas, I can't get a battery to last past 3 yrs do to the heat. So, the warranty is King!

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Old 01-27-2013, 07:19 AM
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Optima Red top here

My Optima Red top has never had an issue cranks right up. I have had it for 2 1/2 years. One of my boys left the interior lights on for a full weekend. Started right up no issues.
I do think a yellow top will be my next purchase but we will see...
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:04 AM
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A buddy of mine just cooked a red top with a normal charger, against my warnings. It says in the paper work that you can hook it up in parallel with a wet bat (+ to +, - to -) and then put a trickle charge on the red top to charge. Will let you know how it goes.
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While the Diehard AGM tied with the Odessey and cost $100 less.

Diehard AGM is an Odyssey with a different color top and sides, aside from that it is identical (I have a Odyssey mount holding my Die Hard Plat AGM and it fits like a glove). It is nice to see that Odyssey doesn't skimp when they sell to Sears, they make them the same.
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:07 PM
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A friend of mine (current ASE certified) mentioned recently only a few different companies make batteries anymore. Mostly by Johnson Controls here in OR and the others I can't remember. And it seems like in the last 12 months I have had numerous (less than a year old) NAPA batteries fail. One in my backhoe that was commercial. It was huge and had no reserve. I would have to bypass the hydraulic pump to get it to crank the old diesel over. Most of the time I had my CJ hooked up as a booster to get it going. My subaru also died. Same with my CJ-5. It was a newer NAPA and it had no reserve at all either. About 30 seconds of cranking (it sits a LOT)and nothing.

Well 20 years ago I had an interstate battery last 11 years. So I went with all interstates in all the vehicles here now. The backhoe cranks even with the pump engaged and has no problems. Both the Suby and the CJ also got them very recently. I accidentally killed the CJ battery by leaving my seat heater on. It was as dead as they get. I trickle charged it at 2 amps for 15 minutes, then 50 amps because I needed it right now. It has come back and has all the power it as when it was new. I am also building a scratch built 5 foot remote control tug boat and it just got a couple deep cycle golf cart type batteries.
I have no doubts I made a good selection with interstate.

Back when I was an active wheeler, I observed lots of optima problems. Never hook a winch lead to the side terminals. A friend of mine trying to winch me out of a stuck melted his terminals right out of the battery and on to the fender. So be sure to use the top terminals if you winch with an optima. I have retired the Napa batteries to powering an inverter for a DVD player when we loose power up here. The interstate batteries do seem to have great quality still. Funny how I had so many battery failures in such a short time. But back to interstate I went. So far so good.
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:10 PM
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Sears = Enersys in batteries

Enersys is owned by Johnson Controls
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The 2 optima reds I bought around 1999-2000 are still kicking strong. I don't know what the secret is or I am having dumb luck. Both vehicles have functional charging systems, but I have ran them down a couple times from leaving lights on.
Before that, I bought Diehards, everstarts, etc and I was lucky to get 3-4 years out of those.
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Sears = Enersys in batteries

Enersys is owned by Johnson Controls

Except the Platinum

Sears Platinum = Odyssey
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The 2 optima reds I bought around 1999-2000 are still kicking strong. I don't know what the secret is or I am having dumb luck. Both vehicles have functional charging systems, but I have ran them down a couple times from leaving lights on.
Before that, I bought Diehards, everstarts, etc and I was lucky to get 3-4 years out of those.


Same here, I had 3 Optimas from about that same time 1997-2001-ish and they went for a long time, the rigs I sold still had the batteries in them when I sold them going strong and the one I kept lasted until 2010.

We started selling Optimas Red Top for a VERY short time. Sold 5 sent them out, received 4 back as warranties and 2 of those warranties I received multiple times. We stopped selling them after that, too much hassle.
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As far as Optima's go, at least over the last couple of years, it depends on the intended use. Do you need a paperweight? If so, they do an outstanding job. Do you want to start your car? Kinda iffy at best.

I'm using a Diehard Platinum in the Wrangler with no issues. The battery in the Wagoneer is of unknown origins from a trip a couple of years ago. It'll be replaced by a Diehard Platinum (as long as it's still an Odyssey variant) when it gives up the ghost.
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Except the Platinum

Sears Platinum = Odyssey
Here is the press release for Sears/Enersys.
EnerSys Signs Multi-Year Contract to Provide Sears Holdings With Long-Life DieHard(R) Platinum BatteriesREADING, Pa. and HOFFMAN ESTATES, Ill., Feb. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- EnerSys (NYSE: ENS), the world's largest manufacturer, marketer and distributor of industrial batteries, today announced it has signed a multi- year contract with Sears Holdings (Nasdaq: SHLD) to manufacture and supply Sears with a newly categorized DieHard Platinum branded battery for aftermarket automotive and marine applications. DieHard is America's most preferred automotive battery, among those stating a preference.
Beginning in March, 2007, Sears Auto Centers will be the exclusive distribution channel for DieHard Platinum batteries. "By working with EnerSys on the new DieHard Platinum battery, we continue the legacy of innovation that was established with the original DieHard battery 40 years ago," said Rick Sawyer, vice president/general merchandise manager of Sears Auto Centers. "We're confident this new battery will live up to the DieHard brand name and that users will be pleased with its performance. These premium-grade batteries are designed for a longer life than traditional batteries, offer increased levels of safe operation, can withstand extreme heat and cold, and are durable for consumer automotive/marine applications. The DieHard Platinum battery will offer proven vibration resistance to the consumer market.
The new DieHard Platinum batteries have up to 28% more Cold Cranking Amps (CCA) than comparatively sized spiral Absorbed Glass Mat (AGM) batteries providing much more starting power to automobiles and boats, along with unmatched reserved capacity. These thin-plate pure-lead batteries will carry DieHard batteries' best-ever, free replacement warranty. See your local Sears store for written warranty details.
"We're thrilled to provide this high-end, durable DieHard Platinum version to consumers," said John Craig, chairman, president and chief executive officer of EnerSys. "This partnership represents a great opportunity for more users to benefit from our pure-lead technology products."
The DieHard Platinum batteries are manufactured in EnerSys' U.S. manufacturing facility in Warrensburg, Mo, where the first DieHard Platinum came off the production line today. They have a valve-regulated design that allows them to be installed in any orientation, except inverted, without spilling and the U.S. Department of Transportation has classified them as non- spillable for safe shipping.
For more information, contact Richard Zuidema, Executive Vice President, EnerSys, P.O. Box 14145, Reading, PA 19612-4145. Tel: 800/538-3627; Web site: EnerSys Home.
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The other part of that story is that EnerSys makes Odyssey batteries too. Ergo: Diehard Platinum = Odyssey.
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The other part of that story is that EnerSys makes Odyssey batteries too. Ergo: Diehard Platinum = Odyssey.


and they are therefore all owned by JCI who just so happens to make Optima. Bottom line.........JCI engineering oversees the products of the companies they own.......Potatoe, Potaaato
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That being the case, they need a bigger magnifying glass when they look at Optima.
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