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Old 04-13-2011, 08:26 PM
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windshield remmoval/ installation????

I need to replace the winshield in my 1986 Jeep and I have a few questions from those that have done it themselves. How hard is it to remove a windshield? Are there any special tools required? I would like to try and find a wind shield at a junk yard to replace mine. I got a price quote from Safelite for about $250 installed, a quote from a local shop for about $120 installed, and a quote from a junk yard for $25 for a windshield. With a new seal from BJ's @ $75 and a windshield from a junk yard @ $25 for a total of $100. I am thinking that it would be worth it to pay the $120, but the joy of doing it myself is priceless. Those of you that have experience, what do you think?
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Old 04-14-2011, 04:34 AM
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Although I used to work in a glass shop in my younger days I never have installed a windshield in a wag. You will for sure need one of these when putting in glass with a gasket:

http://www.amazon.com/CRL-General-Pu.../dp/B001C7Q6XA

you can use nylon rope to run around the gasket and after you set the windshield in place while someone applies gentle pressure on the outside pull the rope on the inside to lip the gasket onto the pinchweld.

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Old 04-14-2011, 05:25 AM
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My son and i just removed the windshield from his J10 truck about a week or so ago. I don't think it took more than about 15 minutes to pull the windshield. Here are the steps we followed:

1. Remove chrome trim from around windshield. The trim is real easy to remove. It is just basically clipped to the outer lip of the windshield seal.

2. Once trim is removed, separate the gasket seal. The seal has two pieces that are pressed together. You will be able to see the seam once the trim is removed. Go around the whole windshield to split the seal halves. The service manual shows a wooden tool fabricated in the shape of a wedge for this job. I was careful and just used a screwdriver.

3. With the seal split apart, go around the outside of the windshield with a putty knife and lift the seal back. The putty knife should be at about a 90 degree angle to the windshield. The purpose of this step is to free the glass from the seal. Spray some soapy water around the seal as you pull the seal back.

4. Go inside the vehicle and run the putty knife around the seal to free the glass from the seal.

5. Here is the most important step. Use two people and pop the windshield out from the BOTTOM. The second person is to hold the windshield from falling. I started on the driver's side bottom with my putty knife pulling the gasket back 90 degrees and pushing on the windshield from the inside. Once the windshield was started it was real easy to remove. With the bottom and sides free from the gasket, the windshield just slid out of the top part of the gasket.


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Old 04-14-2011, 06:20 AM
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now the other half of the info...what about putting reinstalling one?
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Old 06-25-2011, 04:40 AM
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Yes, which side does the gasket start on for re-installation? Does the gasket get set onto the frame and the glass gets inserted in? or does the gasket start on the glass, and the assembly is placed in the frame? capdaddy
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:50 AM
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put the gasket on the body,then start by jamming the windshield into the top slot,work it into the sides and up into the bottom. 2 man job.
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Old 06-25-2011, 06:23 AM
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If youve got a new seal, I was most comfortable just using a razor and cutting the old seal down to the metal. Then pulling it out.

A plastic putty knife helps. Or some small strong string to feed through and use like a saw.

Definitely a 2 man job.
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Old 06-26-2011, 01:08 PM
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The procedure in the Factory Service Manual (1984-88) requires one or two different sealers and three different primers (plus the gasket).

The 1964 Jeep 'J' FSM pretty much says the same thing (but more clearly and with better pics). My conclusion is that a sealer should be used both where the flange goes into the gasket and on the glass before locking down the gasket. Instead of urethane, the '64 manual just says a medium bodied sealer. Also it doesn't go into all the cleaning and priming but other than that the procedures are essentially the same.

1. Self curing urethane adhesive
2. Glass Blackout Primer
3. Rubber Primer
4. Paint Finish Primer
5. 3M Super Silicone Sealer (probably just for vinyl roofs, see 18 below)

Installation summarized.
1. Remove old urethanse adhesive from body opening flange.
2. Mask the glass 1/2" inboard from the edges.
3. Clean glass and apply blackout primer around the outside edge and first 1/2" of glass. Allow 10 min. to dry.
4. Clean the rubber weatherstrip where the glass and flange will go.
5. Apply rubber primer to the same. Allow 30 min to dry.
6. Clean the metal body flange with isopropyl alcohol. Allow to dry
7. Mask the cowl, roof and A-pillers to protect them.
8. Apply body finish primer to flange. Allow 30 min to dry.
9. Apply a 1/8 in dia. bead of urethane to inside rubber seal where the body flange goes.
10. Install rubber weatherstrip into the vehicle.
11. Lay a 1/8" cord into the bottom glass cavity in the weatherstrip.
12. Apply soap and water to glass edges.
13. Have two people work the windshield into the top cavity of the rubber weatherstrip.
14. Use a wood wand to lift the glass up and then down into the bottom of the weather strip while pulling the rope out.
15. Wipe dry the soap and water.
16. Apply a bead of urethane adhesive around the entire outer edge of the windshield glass and rubber weatherstrip.
17. Use the wood wand to lock the weather strip
18. Remove masking and apply silicone along weatherstrip and vinyl roof. (maybe not needed if no viny roof?)
19. Water test immediately - do not direct a hard stream directly at the urethane.
20. Install moldings, start at the bottom. Use a 1/8 dia cord in the retaining groove. Place either molding in the groove and tap in while pulling up cord. Install side and upper corners last.
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Old 06-27-2011, 05:41 PM
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For $120 installed, or $100 to do it yourself, spend the extra $20. If you break the windshield by accident your price becomes $200-220 or more.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:51 AM
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x2 - definatly a job I'd have a pro do. Make sure he's an old pro who knows how do deal with all that stainless.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:32 AM
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Check your insurance. The windshield was cracked on my TJ and it only cost us $100 to have a guy come out and change it.
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Old 06-28-2011, 04:13 PM
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x2 - definatly a job I'd have a pro do. Make sure he's an old pro who knows how do deal with all that stainless.

Exactly. If the guy was in diapers when your truck came out of Toledo, he's too young.
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Old 06-28-2011, 05:17 PM
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This is a very satisfying job until you hear that crack. LOL

If the installer cracks it, he cusses, and gets another... No cost to you.

If you have a professional do it with the proper sealers he is responsible for the weather seal if it leaks.

Safelight quoted me $210 with my new gasket, $250 if they supplied the gasket, they would not do it without the gasket. This was for the tinted top sun screen windshield.

They priced installing the rear window for $40. They cannot get the rear gasket, nor do I believe it is available.

I will have them install / seal the rear window when the windshield is installed so that the proper sealer is used and I have a warranty...
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:42 PM
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Easy to pull but leave installation up to a pro. I got mine done for $80 (excluding windshield and gasket). You are SOL if you break it or mess up the gasket.
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:49 PM
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Easy to pull but leave installation up to a pro. I got mine done for $80 (excluding windshield and gasket). You are SOL if you break it or mess up the gasket.

That is my plan. I got a windshield from the local pick a part for $15. Took about 10 minutes to pull out. Once I get the dents pulled out and the rust fixed, I am gonna call in the pros to get the glass in.
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