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Old 10-20-2012, 02:04 PM
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You and WHSII are really inspiring and I'm chomping at the bit to get going on my truck.

That's really starting to look awesome.

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Old 10-20-2012, 02:15 PM
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You're scaring the heck out of me.

I think I'll use lacquer.
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:05 PM
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Thanks, Mars. I look forward to seeing your build thread.

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You're scaring the heck out of me.

I think I'll use lacquer.

LOL. Just remember: Your goal is to turn gray things yellow, then yellow things gray, then back again. And sand, sand, sand. It's therapeutic.

No, this is the stuff to use. Epoxy primer, 2K primer surfacer, and urethane enamel. The runs were operator error.

I've been taping reruns of American Hot Rod with Boyd Coddingtons shop. I've been paying special attention to the painters, and they make it look too durn easy. They don't even look like their paying attention to where the paint goes, they're just waving their hand with a gun in it.

I'm done with the wet sanding. Now I'm tearing all my plastic down and sweeping/blowing all the dust out. Then put new plastic up and hopefully shoot color tomorrow.

I'd try and get it in tonight, but I've been using water on the panels, and don't want to take a chance some water is hiding in a crack.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:10 PM
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Ok. Who said "experience is what you get after you need it"?

To recap: I spent all day Saturday sanding the whole entire body/fenders/hood/doors/tailgate. I thought about just sanding the few runs and sags, but I re-sanded it all. I even sanded thru the sealer coat, and hit some yellow 2K primer (cue the foreboding music....) I thought about putting down a new sealer coat, but decided against it. The paint will cover it.......

I cleaned out the garage again: Tore down the dusty primer plastic, blew out all the dust, put down new plastic, prepped everything for final color.

Here it is, ready to go. Pay attention to the telltale light primer spots. I wish I had...


Got up Sunday morning....Todays the day! Started spraying my color, and......problems.

My paint is a metallic pearl, and it is not covering. I can clearly see the light 2K primer showing thru. I painted everything one full pass, and started a 2nd one, and it wouldn't have mattered how many coats I put on, the lighter primer was showing.

I'd mixed a full liter of paint, so I kept painting the hood and tailgate, which didn't have any light spots. But my gun was acting up, and all I was getting was orange peel. I should have just quit.

I had to wait for the paint to harden to start sanding it.

So, I call my boss this morning and see if I can get today and tomorrow off, because the weather is changing.

We talk about this project, and I find out he used to paint cars professionally. Sweet! He says he'll come over and show me his tricks and how to set up my gun. I do good when it's good, but when something is wrong with the setup, I don't know which way to go to fix the problem.

So......I spend all day wetsanding the body/doors/fenders/hood/tailgate all over again today, for the 4th or 5th or 10th time. And I have an especially good time on the orange peel from Hades that I didn't have to put down, but I wanted to use the paint I had mixed. What an idiot (I think we need to call this emicon "The Painter" )

Here it is sanded again.


And I shoot what I hope is the final, final sealer coat on it. It goes on smooth, no troubles.



(Everybody tired at look at my Cherokee in various stages of primer? Welcome to my world)

So I'm be trying once again tomorrow. I wanted to do it all myself, but if I have to sand this thing again, I'm gonna lose it. So if my boss Justin feels like he wants to spray some, I'll be tickled to watch him. I feel alot better knowing a pro is coming over. I'm tired.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:20 PM
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I envy you, no joke.

I love doing this and wish I had your facilities to do it in!

Here's to getting back that lawn chair in the middle of nowhere feeling!
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:23 AM
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I envy you, no joke.

I love doing this and wish I had your facilities to do it in!

Here's to getting back that lawn chair in the middle of nowhere feeling!



Thanks, I'm very grateful to have a place like this to work. I like doing this work, I'm just tired of redoing it 3 times. I'm ready for the next step, you know what I mean? When it's finally in color, I'm never gonna be depressed about this resto again. And I'm walking away from it for awhile

I do like getting things straight, and after all this blocking, this thing is straight.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:27 PM
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Keep after it your doing just want needs to happen - You will be more happy with the results.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:47 AM
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Well..........it didn't get painted.

Justin came over and he tried some panels. It turns out my final sealer coat wasn't as glass smooth as I needed it to be, and it needed sanding with 600 before the color. I should have reduced it alot more. And I found out where my spraying technique was bad with this metallic pearl color.

So because of that, and the fact that I want to do some striping, we decided it made more sense to paint it all in one shot, with the body on the frame and all the panels put on.

So we painted and cleared the rest of the jambs. I'll be sanding (SANDING!) some more, and it will be awhile now before I put final color on it. I want to get the drivetrain & exhaust all in before I put the body back on.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:56 AM
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I was going to keep the stock remote control mirrors. But since it wasn't getting painted soon, I decided to go ahead and try the Bronco mirror mod.

I ordered some 95 Bronco mirrors from Rock Auto. (Chinese.....sigh )

The power mirrors and the manuals were the same price, so I went power. I went to the junkyard and pulled a handful of power mirror controls and some pigtails for the mirrors.



I filled in the original holes.



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Old 11-05-2012, 03:59 AM
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After I mocked up some mounting spots, I decided the base had the wrong angle, because it was putting the mirrors on at an angle. So I ground the outside lower edge of the mirrors away, and trimmed the base gasket.





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Old 11-05-2012, 04:19 AM
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And then, for some reason known only to the defective synapses in my aging brain, I mounted them stupidly, with the ears pointing up. Exactly what I was trying to avoid.

(* I was going to post a picture of my FUBAR, but I'm looking at a picture of it now, and I'm still not able to deal with it. No picture of the FUBAR)

So, more welding and filling 3 good sized holes in the door. This is after my filling and a skim coat of filler.



I tried it again further up the door, and it came out ok. I don't think that grinding the base accomplished anything other than it allowed me to mount the mirror slightly below where some other people have mounted theirs. I did match the contour of the door a little. (This is a test fit without the base gasket)



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Old 11-05-2012, 04:29 AM
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I guess I'll grind the other side the same way so they will match and mount it. I dunno if the grinding is worth it, and opposed to just mounting them right below the wing window like the pioneers before me did.

I'll be painting these body color.

Anyway, I'm trying to figure out the wiring on these power mirrors. The mirrors themselves have only 3 leads, up/down, in/out, and return. They reverse as the current is reversed.

The switches I grabbed have either 7 or 8 leads. I'm using an ohmmeter to try and figure out what is what, and it's confusing. I need to find a schematic of how the leads out of the switch hit the relay, and then the mirrors. I'm going to need some relays too, and I was looking around at the junkyard to see what would work. I don't know what else I'm going to need relays for.
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:35 AM
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Off Topic: where is this location? at your home? or did you rent any garage or old stock room?

i am looking forward to find a space but it is very difficult...
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:30 AM
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It's my garage at my house, which I'm very grateful to have.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:53 AM
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Sorry about your troubles, Brad. I feel your pain. I am so glad I am done. Well, mostly, I still have the hood to sand the clear and re-clear.

It looks really good though. I went around the world figuring things out too. It is the nature of doing things ourselves.

How were your old mirrors? I may be interested in them if the black plastic trim is good. I used my old ones but could not refurbish the plastic trim very good.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:01 AM
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Sorry about your troubles, Brad. I feel your pain. I am so glad I am done. Well, mostly, I still have the hood to sand the clear and re-clear.

It looks really good though. I went around the world figuring things out too. It is the nature of doing things ourselves.

How were your old mirrors? I may be interested in them if the black plastic trim is good. I used my old ones but could not refurbish the plastic trim very good.

Let me get up in the attic, and I'll get a picture of them for you. You're welcome to have them. They'd be honored to be attached to your fine restoration.

Edit: They are in great shape, sent you a PM.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:14 AM
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You have way more patience than I have on your project. Hence the reason I farmed out my paint job.
In the end, you'll have a greater sense of satisfaction knowing you done it all yourself.
Plus, I'm sure you saved way more money than what I spent on mine.
Wish I had the patience and knowledge you have to tackle a job like that. Cant wait to see the outcome...!
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:00 PM
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You have way more patience than I have on your project. Hence the reason I farmed out my paint job.
In the end, you'll have a greater sense of satisfaction knowing you done it all yourself.
Plus, I'm sure you saved way more money than what I spent on mine.
Wish I had the patience and knowledge you have to tackle a job like that. Cant wait to see the outcome...!

Glide, thanks. I'm really enjoying seeing the Money Pit come together.
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Did a little more work this weekend. I did the passenger side Bronco mirror, grinding the edges down again.









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Old 11-11-2012, 05:22 PM
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I also primed the mirrors, and they will be body color.



I also put my steering column back together. I think I got it back together right.

Before:





After:



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