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  • Whtshos
    232 I6
    • Aug 21, 2011
    • 125

    #16
    I kinda like the one piece glass in the quarters.
    Nice find!!!
    Its only money............
    82" J10 Honcho
    . .......==,---,
    _____l_,\____\,__
    l_(--)-l__l---0llllllll0
    _(o)_)__(o)_)--o-)_)_
    79" Chief W/T 'TANK'

    . ,=====,---,
    //___/l_,\____\,__
    l_-----l__l---0llllllll0
    _(o)_)__(o)_)--o-)_)_

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    • serehill
      Gone,Never Forgotten.
      • Nov 22, 2009
      • 8619

      #17
      here's a good reference.

      My grandad had a N/T chief. It was brought brand new. It may have been classified as a S series. It had the cheif emblems the seat covers tribal stripes etc.


      Last edited by serehill; 02-26-2013, 10:47 AM.

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      • Gambler68
        Rabble Rouser
        • Feb 29, 2004
        • 14083

        #18
        easy: stickers.
        1979 Chero S "Sundog" 1979 Chero S "Hammer"
        1968 327 J3000 1978 J10SWB
        The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
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        • npd811
          232 I6
          • Jul 24, 2010
          • 137

          #19
          Originally posted by Mars
          Blood ritual and success in the hunt...
          Best chuckle I've had all day. Thanks!
          1963 J200
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          • Tonka J200
            360 AMC

            Moderator
            • Jul 21, 2002
            • 3108

            #20
            The round emblem with the Native American man with the big head dress is NOT a Chief emblem. It's a Cherokee emblem. Lot's of non-Chiefs had them.

            Unless it said CHEROKEE CHIEF in big letters on the doors and tailgate, it aint a Chief.

            The only narrow track Chiefs were the 4-door version offered at the very end of the run - I think '81 to '83.


            Since I deal with the graphics packages for Cherokees, the mis-use of the therm "Chief" has led to a lot of confusion for me, so it's kind of a sore subject.
            Over time as the vinyl graphics deteriorated or were removed, so it may be difficult to identify a Jeep with the Cheif package, since you could also get a non-Chief widetrack.

            The bottom line is, it was basically just an appearance package.

            But-
            Not all Widetracks were Chiefs.
            The Native American pattern stripes were the "S" package, not Chiefs. These were available on the both narrow and widetrack 2 doors and on 4 doors.

            Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians...

            I've come to just accept this misnomer. It used to bug me, but now....whatever. Just like the "Honcho" thing. Maybe it still bugs me a little or I wouldn't have taken the time to write this!

            It's like refering to all Firebirds as "Trans Ams". Technically not correct, but really... who cares?
            -Frank
            '63 J200 2WD
            '63 J200 4WD: J20 Axles, extended wheelbase, factory stakebed
            '63 J100 Panel Delivery
            '91 Grand Wagoneer Final Edition
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            • serehill
              Gone,Never Forgotten.
              • Nov 22, 2009
              • 8619

              #21
              yeppers

              LOL Jeep never changed anything or made exceptions every thing they did was completely black & white. Really??
              Last edited by serehill; 02-26-2013, 01:15 PM.

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              Comp cams 270 h
              NP208
              Edlebrock performer intake
              Holley 4180
              Msd total multi spark.
              4" rusty's springs
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              If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.

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              • joe
                • Apr 28, 2000
                • 22392

                #22
                Franks reply #20 pretty much sums it up. Originally when the 2 dr widetracks came out it was designated as the Chief model for the first couple years till the widetracks took over the model 17 designation. But after the first couple years the Chief thing became just a trim package not a model/body type designation. Essentially fluff stuff.
                joe
                "Don't mind me. I'm just here for the alibi"

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                • serehill
                  Gone,Never Forgotten.
                  • Nov 22, 2009
                  • 8619

                  #23
                  Now that I agree with

                  Originally posted by Joe
                  Franks reply #20 pretty much sums it up. Originally when the 2 dr widetracks came out it was designated as the Chief model for the first couple years till the widetracks took over the model 17 designation. But after the first couple years the Chief thing became just a trim package not a model/body type designation. Essentially fluff stuff.
                  Calling what you want to. To wards the end of the Cherokee heritage years that's what they did. everything was convoluted
                  More Cherokees we called chiefs than there ever was. Funny with as much gray there was at AMC this is black & white LOL. It's like the super Chief I posted the link to earlier. The guy that owns in says the S was for super. LOL
                  No I don't think that makes it true.


                  Franks last statement covers it all & what the threads final assessment is.
                  Since from him or anyone else that makes the vinyl. I can make anything a chief.
                  Answer to the PO. Emblems, Vinyl interior & tribal stripes.
                  Last edited by serehill; 02-26-2013, 07:37 PM.

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                  360 ci 727 with
                  Comp cams 270 h
                  NP208
                  Edlebrock performer intake
                  Holley 4180
                  Msd total multi spark.
                  4" rusty's springs
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                  If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.

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                  • ChiefBigB
                    232 I6
                    • Feb 21, 2012
                    • 100

                    #24
                    Thats what i was gonna post, but I thought I was being a smart a#@. lol



                    Originally posted by gsmikie
                    he wears a lot more feathers

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                    • Ghinmi
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                      Moderator
                      • Jul 02, 2004
                      • 2147

                      #25
                      Originally posted by serehill
                      Answer to the PO. Emblems, Vinyl interior & tribal stripes.
                      If it has the tribal stripes it is NOT a Chief. That would be an "S" model.
                      Yep, I know my PM box is full. Email me instead.

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                      • serehill
                        Gone,Never Forgotten.
                        • Nov 22, 2009
                        • 8619

                        #26
                        ask any indian

                        Originally posted by gsmikie
                        he wears a lot more feathers
                        The round plate with the indian wearing a headband would have been called a chief indian. that may have been wrong. It accented the chief. An indian with a ful head dress was called a ??????

                        Even though the statement was used in this thread. There's not doubt in the case of the Jeep there were Far more indians than chiefs. LOL

                        As much as I've seen & owned a few chiefs I'll not argue anything was possible from the folks who changed specs hourly.
                        Last edited by serehill; 02-26-2013, 05:27 PM.

                        80 Cherokee
                        360 ci 727 with
                        Comp cams 270 h
                        NP208
                        Edlebrock performer intake
                        Holley 4180
                        Msd total multi spark.
                        4" rusty's springs
                        Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

                        If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.

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