Swapping '72 body onto '81 diesel-powered chassis

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  • dusty
    327 Rambler
    • Jul 20, 2006
    • 744

    #31
    looking good. i remember those body swap and frame swap headaches to beat the CA smog
    Cherokee S Chief Widetrack W/ Cummins 4bta Diesel, 91 dodge intercooler, hy35/9, AC NV4500/D300 3.54's Ploks 4" BJ's w/ 33's, scout 33 gal fuel tank ( Sold, to a good fsj home)
    The 608.9 hybrid dana 44 build

    AMC 401 supporter

    GO UM Montana Griz

    "Dont worry the Coors light engineering department will be documenting this accordingly."

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    • budojeepr
      350 Buick
      • Feb 02, 2006
      • 933

      #32
      Getting ready for paint

      I've made some progress towards painting the Wag, and thought I'd post some stuff. Mostly I've been stripping paint, but now I'm starting to do some of the body work. Somewhere in the past 6 months I made a new friend who happens to share a bunch of the same interests, and who (amazingly) volunteered to share some of his experience in body work, time, and the use of his shop for finishing the work. And he's a Highway Patrol officer to boot. Gotta lotta great stories to tell while we work. Anyway...

      The plan is to shuttle the Jeep's carcass to his shop next weekend, finish all the body work (precious little is needed, thankfully), and squirt primer/sealer on it. This weekend is "all hands on deck" for what little body work is necessary.

      Don't mind the dates on the photos, I've gotten tired of setting the date every time I switch camera batteries.

      Here's the side of the Jeep, in my garage:


      The front doors:




      Junk piled up in the interior (there's at least twice as much junk in my rental storage unit):


      The PO had, near as I can tell, a large whip antenna mounted to the driver side below the back window. When the rig was repainted white, they removed the antenna and covered the hole. I dug the 1/4" of bondo out and removed the patch. Wait for it:


      OK, they pounded the area outside the hole in far enough for rivets to go in to hold the backing plate on, then just bondo-ed it all in.


      Here's the plate, with the remainder of the bondo stuck on:


      I pounded the area flush with the body again, then made cardboard templates. I hope the GF doesn't mind losing her JoAnn coupons :


      I decided to use the one on the left, and just fill all the rivet holes.

      Here's the test fit of the final replacement plate:


      Here's the plate, tack welded:


      And the plate, stitched in:


      Not yet ground flush or otherwise prettied up.

      More to come later this weekend!
      Don't be yourself. Be someone a little nicer. -Mignon McLaughlin, journalist and author (1913-1983)

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      • JeepinPete
        304 AMC
        • Dec 09, 2003
        • 2190

        #33
        That is a tremendous amount of work just to have a diesel Wagoneer. My hats off to you
        Pete

        '55 Willys Wagon, the original FSJ
        Sitting on a '77 Cherokee frame, Dodge D60's
        Isuzu 6BD1, NV4500, NP241

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        • budojeepr
          350 Buick
          • Feb 02, 2006
          • 933

          #34
          Originally posted by JeepinPete
          That is a tremendous amount of work just to have a diesel Wagoneer. My hats off to you
          Well...thank you. It's no more than Resbum or a bunch of others have done, in fact any of the build threads on here.

          To be technically correct I already had a diesel Wagoneer. I just couldn't drive it. I guess I finally figured things out:
          1. I want to drive an FSJ. Daily.
          2. I don't want to mess with Cali smog, so pre-'76 is the only option.
          3. I want to drive a NICE FSJ. Daily.
          So, given my outlandish desires, I can only hope it'll be worth all the dollars and travail.

          This weekend I did a bunch of bodywork with my CHP buddy. He's good with a hammer...we got that ex-hole all smoothed out. Only have to do the right rear quarter panel and right rear door, and she's ready for paint!

          Only now we're going into a 7+ day storm track.



          Shoulda painted it two weeks ago!
          Don't be yourself. Be someone a little nicer. -Mignon McLaughlin, journalist and author (1913-1983)

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          • JeepinPete
            304 AMC
            • Dec 09, 2003
            • 2190

            #35
            OK, let me restate that. That is a tremendous amount of work just to have a state approved, daily driver diesel Wagoneer
            Pete

            '55 Willys Wagon, the original FSJ
            Sitting on a '77 Cherokee frame, Dodge D60's
            Isuzu 6BD1, NV4500, NP241

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            • Towtruck
              350 Buick
              • Oct 11, 2001
              • 1026

              #36
              Fun thread. Amusing and well written.
              ___________________________
              J10 - Body channel (3 inch drop @ front); dechromed; shaved side parking lights, antenna, and hood trim bar. Ford mirrors, roll pans, side exhaust, 16 inch wheels, custom dash, new interior, Edelbrocked 360, HEI, T18/208 (J20), rear disk brakes, goose neck and bumper hitches.

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              • Resbum
                327 Rambler
                • Jun 16, 2010
                • 648

                #37
                Cool build. I feel your pain. I once fought emmisions laws, and didn't win either.

                Subscribed.

                Between here and lobie's thread it took me two hours to catch up on everything since last Thursday.

                Resbum

                P.S. There may now be a Suburban tank in my trucks future. Thanks for the info.
                Originally posted by Resbum
                "What year is my truck?... Which part?" Build thread- http://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/view...p=18290#p18290

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                • budojeepr
                  350 Buick
                  • Feb 02, 2006
                  • 933

                  #39
                  Tailgate tale - bodywork

                  I took a closer look at the tailgate last night. It's ... sad. The PO or PPO had backed into what looks like a stick of rebar or something, and pushed in the left side. It was filled up and straightened with bondo, a cheap way out IMO. The weatherstrip/wipes were rotted out, which led to lots of water down in the bottom, which sat there and created rust all along the bottom seam.

                  I decided to see if the junkyard could supply me with a better one. I knew there was a '73 Wagoneer there - I've gotten parts off of it in recent weeks.

                  Well, I scored a pristine tailgate, with good glass and all the fixin's, for just $75. I'll post some pics tomorrow after I get it cleaned up. I'll be stripping off the nice trim and scratching the paint (original, same original yellow color as my '72) and prepping it for my new paint...

                  ...Which, by the way, I picked up yesterday. Going with two-tone, satin black below the hood line, and British Racing Green up top (including the hood) and interior. We'll divide the two colors with a strip of gloss black. I'll fix up the grille, not sure if I'll retain all the silver, or do a black/green thing. My imagination says it'll be gorgeous, but I'm not good enough with GIMP or Photoshop to fake it.

                  According to my newfound painting pal, we should be squirting primer next weekend!
                  Don't be yourself. Be someone a little nicer. -Mignon McLaughlin, journalist and author (1913-1983)

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                  • budojeepr
                    350 Buick
                    • Feb 02, 2006
                    • 933

                    #40
                    Tailgate pics

                    As purchased:









                    Disassembled:


                    You wouldn't believe all the crap that came out of it:


                    Window tracks:


                    Interesting sticker on the tailgate:


                    More later, the S.O. is ringing the dinner bell!
                    Don't be yourself. Be someone a little nicer. -Mignon McLaughlin, journalist and author (1913-1983)

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                    • budojeepr
                      350 Buick
                      • Feb 02, 2006
                      • 933

                      #41
                      Some bodywork

                      I think the antenna hole is ready to paint:




                      There's precious little body work left. We're waiting for some clear weather to get the Jeep turned around so we can make sure the passenger side is all ready. It's tough to squeeze in between the body and all the ... good stuff ... I have piled around it on that side. And the Left Coast weather has socked in and is not cooperating at all.

                      Our tentative plan is to transport the Jeep to the shop on Thursday April 12, set up the paint booth on Thursday afternoon and Friday morning, and hopefully squirt primer on Friday afternoon. We both have stuff to do on Saturday, but we'll block sand and do the second coat of primer on Sunday, then the base coat whenever we can after that.

                      Speaking of names, which we weren't but are now, when I got the Jeep it was the color of a soda cracker. Liking the pun, I started calling it "Cracker" ( ) then. The GF (or S.O.) and I have bandied about some names for the Jeep, but I still like "Cracker" even though the pun is no longer apropos. Ideas, anyone?

                      Oh yeah, I've been shopping online...almost ready to pull the trigger on a weatherstrip order at BJ's Offroad (start collecting pieces, Ryan! ), and am almost ready to buy an HID headlight conversion. I'd like to go with LEDs but the legality or lack thereof and cost are pushing me away. And I want to get an oversized radiator and mod the core support for it. So much to do!
                      Don't be yourself. Be someone a little nicer. -Mignon McLaughlin, journalist and author (1913-1983)

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                      • Resbum
                        327 Rambler
                        • Jun 16, 2010
                        • 648

                        #42
                        I just got my rubbers and seals from BJ's last week. You should be happy.

                        Cracker, definitely Cracker. That's history, man. It's a tie and identity to its past. Besides, IMO it's a cool name.

                        Make up a story. Somebody asks where you bought it.

                        "Well, I got it from a Meth addict, but Tweeker sounded dumb, so I named it Cracker.

                        Resbum
                        Originally posted by Resbum
                        "What year is my truck?... Which part?" Build thread- http://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/view...p=18290#p18290

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                        • budojeepr
                          350 Buick
                          • Feb 02, 2006
                          • 933

                          #43
                          Originally posted by Resbum
                          I just got my rubbers and seals from BJ's last week. You should be happy.

                          Cracker, definitely Cracker. That's history, man. It's a tie and identity to its past. Besides, IMO it's a cool name.

                          Make up a story. Somebody asks where you bought it.

                          "Well, I got it from a Meth addict, but Tweeker sounded dumb, so I named it Cracker.

                          Resbum
                          Thanks for the feedback. Problem is, there are so many tweekers around here that it would be believable.

                          Actually, I pronounce it with a Bah-ston accent: "Crack-ah".
                          Don't be yourself. Be someone a little nicer. -Mignon McLaughlin, journalist and author (1913-1983)

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                          • budojeepr
                            350 Buick
                            • Feb 02, 2006
                            • 933

                            #45
                            Happy New Radiator to Me!

                            Thanks to Resbum for the source!

                            Don't be yourself. Be someone a little nicer. -Mignon McLaughlin, journalist and author (1913-1983)

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