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  • pcoplin
    232 I6
    • Feb 17, 2013
    • 147

    Wider stance...

    The "roller skate" look isn't my favorite on my wife's Wagoneer. I'd like a little wider track, however it's not as easy to put on more backspacing wheels, as the stock ones are already 3.5ish on a 7 inch wheel.

    I suppose I can get the Mickey Thompson 15x8 with a 3.5 inch BS, and that would only give me an inch on each side. Probably enough get the look I'm looking for.

    Conversely I can also get 1 inch wheel spacers, this would allow me to keep the stock look.

    Here it is with 31x10.50s.



    Stolen from Advance Adapters page, but here is the stance I'd like to achieve. I assume this is a wide track?
    85 Wagoneer 5.2/44RE/NP229
    98 TJ 5.9/46RE/D300
    01 F250 Powerstroke
    ***Space saved for a J-truck***
  • J20 project
    304 AMC
    • Dec 27, 2000
    • 2487

    #2
    I assume this is a wide track
    While it is possible that the green rigs' owner put wider axles on it, I would bet its' a regular stance wag like yours. Just probably has less backspacing on the wheels as you are suggesting.

    Wide track rigs have flares like the pickup,,,,,

    One note, if you intend on wheeling and flexing your rig......leave it alone, if its' main duty is mall crawler, space them out. It's pretty easy to ruin a good set of tires w/ spacing the wheels out or too little lift.

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    • pcoplin
      232 I6
      • Feb 17, 2013
      • 147

      #3
      I can't imagine, because it doesn't look like American Racing or Mickey Thompson make anything less than 3.5 inch backspacing in a 15. Unless going from a 7 to an 8 inch wheel appears that much wider...
      85 Wagoneer 5.2/44RE/NP229
      98 TJ 5.9/46RE/D300
      01 F250 Powerstroke
      ***Space saved for a J-truck***

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      • pcoplin
        232 I6
        • Feb 17, 2013
        • 147

        #4
        It does look like Eagle makes one with a 3.25 BS wheel. That would probably be the ticket.

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        98 TJ 5.9/46RE/D300
        01 F250 Powerstroke
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        • serehill
          Gone,Never Forgotten.
          • Nov 22, 2009
          • 8619

          #5
          Yup they look like this

          These are widetracks





          Last edited by serehill; 12-08-2013, 09:03 PM.

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          • pcoplin
            232 I6
            • Feb 17, 2013
            • 147

            #6
            Except those are 10s, and stick way too far out.
            85 Wagoneer 5.2/44RE/NP229
            98 TJ 5.9/46RE/D300
            01 F250 Powerstroke
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            • serehill
              Gone,Never Forgotten.
              • Nov 22, 2009
              • 8619

              #7
              yeah

              They sure do.

              Just right for me. That's why it is a wide track they don't rub anywhere. That's the first priority but they wouldn't work on a waggy that's for sure.
              Anything more than what you have now will have the same issues. Without the depth at this width the tires will hit the springs.


              The green waggy is a narrow track too. More back spacing & 8 " wheels.
              Last edited by serehill; 12-08-2013, 06:53 PM.

              80 Cherokee
              360 ci 727 with
              Comp cams 270 h
              NP208
              Edlebrock performer intake
              Holley 4180
              Msd total multi spark.
              4" rusty's springs
              Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

              If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.

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              • Strode
                1st Chair, Cowbell
                • Nov 08, 2011
                • 2292

                #8
                Originally posted by serehill
                The green waggy is a narrow track too. More back spacing & 8 " wheels.
                You have it backwards, Rick. More backspacing puts the tires closer to the inside. Adding a 1" spacer is the equivalent of 1" less backspacing.
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                • serehill
                  Gone,Never Forgotten.
                  • Nov 22, 2009
                  • 8619

                  #9
                  yeah I wasn't clear

                  The red Honcho/ Cheorkee is wide track. The green waggy is not. went back & cleared that up.

                  The point was it can be achieved without spacers the Honcho has none.

                  The green waggy has more backspacing on the wheels. I'm betting those are 8" Not a spacer fan. But that's my opinion. You could put spacers on the stock wheels & bring the wheels out. Not a big deal there.

                  I still haven't figured out why spacers are so expensive. I just know they are not for me. LOL I could be off there if Paul doesn't intend to use spacers.
                  I understand the look. The waggys I had with the wheels out there would sling road stuff all up the doors & windshield. In bad weather.
                  Last edited by serehill; 12-08-2013, 09:13 PM.

                  80 Cherokee
                  360 ci 727 with
                  Comp cams 270 h
                  NP208
                  Edlebrock performer intake
                  Holley 4180
                  Msd total multi spark.
                  4" rusty's springs
                  Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

                  If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.

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                  • DanHS
                    • Aug 29, 2004
                    • 5268

                    #10
                    I'd worry about tire rubbing if the tires were further out, unless you don't expect the suspension to be flexed at all ever, then you could get away with it. The 15x8 rims with 3.5 backspace I would agree are the way to go, any wider and the tires are gonna be pretty close to the fenders. I wouldn't bother with spacers. I have a set of 32x11.5 tires on Jeep 15x10 rims with 3.75" backspace, and they lined up with the outside edge of the fenders, but they needed fender trimming to clear when the suspension was flexed. Personally, I always thought the look of the BFG's on the original rims, tucked just inside the fenders was nice, but it does look good with the tires lined up with the fenders.
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                    • pcoplin
                      232 I6
                      • Feb 17, 2013
                      • 147

                      #11
                      Originally posted by serehill
                      The green waggy has more backspacing on the wheels.

                      It should actually have LESS backspacing is what he means.
                      85 Wagoneer 5.2/44RE/NP229
                      98 TJ 5.9/46RE/D300
                      01 F250 Powerstroke
                      ***Space saved for a J-truck***

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                      • billyj7175
                        304 AMC
                        • Sep 10, 2001
                        • 1513

                        #12
                        Looks to me like the green wagoneer has a SPOA lift on it, where the OP's wagoneer looks like a 4" spring lift.

                        I don't think you'll clear 33X12.50's on narrow track with only 4" of lift, regardless of backspacing...
                        Last edited by billyj7175; 12-09-2013, 11:03 AM.
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                        360/727/229
                        4" Rusty's w/33X12.50 BFG AT's

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                        • pcoplin
                          232 I6
                          • Feb 17, 2013
                          • 147

                          #13
                          I noticed Spidertrax has no listing for Wags. Where can one get 6 lug lug centric spacers?
                          85 Wagoneer 5.2/44RE/NP229
                          98 TJ 5.9/46RE/D300
                          01 F250 Powerstroke
                          ***Space saved for a J-truck***

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                          • ColeTrickle
                            360 AMC
                            • Nov 13, 2000
                            • 2663

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pcoplin
                            I noticed Spidertrax has no listing for Wags. Where can one get 6 lug lug centric spacers?
                            Just because you can buy them, doesn't mean you have to buy them.

                            Please tell me you'll reconsider.
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                            • #15
                              Not a fan of spacers, absolutely hate them and never on a wheeled rig. If dead set on them, look for 73 and up 1/2 tom GM/big Blazer, or Toyata 4x4. Just watch the center hole diameter, but you should be ok with either of those.
                              Last edited by goldhammer; 12-09-2013, 01:35 PM.
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