4" Spring lift vs 6" spring lift...

[RED-85-Z51]

on a late Grand Wagoneer, I know when you go with a 4" spring lift you have more to do than simply bolt on 4 new springs and go with it, but what all those "extra" things are...I dont know.

The ones Im aware of are longer brake hoses between the axels and chassis.

Longer shocks, front and rear.

Dropped pitman arm.

What else?

Also, is it any more involved to install a 6" spring only lift instead of a 4" lift?

Also, what can you do to the things the springs mount to front and rear if your originals look kinda rough? Are there longer versions for the front and rear to get a little more lift?

[billyrb]

instructions:

http://www.bjsoffroad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=345

[mattmopar440]

the 4" kit from Bjs come with longer lines and shocks only things you need are a DP and thats optional on a 4" sway bar disconnects are recommend and it you have a trackbar you'll need the kit For that

[RED-85-Z51]

the 4" kit from Bjs come with longer lines and shocks only things you need are a DP and thats optional on a 4" sway bar disconnects are recommend and it you have a trackbar you'll need the kit For that

I think the swaybar is that long bar that runs under the engine and is connected to the frame or whatever, with little like shackles? I think there are supposed to be bushings on them, I dont have bushings though.

Trackbar...no idea what that is..time to google.

[RED-85-Z51]

[mattmopar440]

Yes on the first

Track bar is what run from axle up to the frame help prevent body roll and wheel hop in the wet or at least in my case
I notice a big difference with the rear T-bar off with my tires in the rain

[RED-85-Z51]

Im used to a 5 Link Independent Rear suspension, and unequal length Dual A-arm all aluminum, fiberglass mono-leaf spring Independent Front suspension...

Yet all this stuff seems more complicated...haha

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So a 6" lift kit, containing lines and Pro-Comp shocks (too poor to opt for ranchos), sway bar disconnect kit, and Dual Rancho steering stabilizer, and lastly a Track bar lowering kit, will net me a total of 6" lift from my current stock height?

I should be able to run 33's....

[wickedwagon767]

yes, with 6" of lift on a Wagoneer you will be able to run 33x12.50 tires. Something you will have to consider with the 6" kit more than the 4" kit is driveshaft length. There might be some binding in the u-joints,but you won't know for sure until the lift is installed. A driveshaft shop around here charges $150 to lengthen a driveshaft

[RED-85-Z51]

yes, with 6" of lift on a Wagoneer you will be able to run 33x12.50 tires. Something you will have to consider with the 6" kit more than the 4" kit is driveshaft length. There might be some binding in the u-joints,but you won't know for sure until the lift is installed. A driveshaft shop around here charges $150 to lengthen a driveshaft

Front driveshaft or rear? Both?

Id think it would be more severe on the front shaft, due to its length.

[wickedwagon767]

Front driveshaft or rear? Both?

Id think it would be more severe on the front shaft, due to its length.

Could be both. It varies from rig to rig. A friend of mine installed a 6" lift on a Wagoneer and had to have the rear shaft extended 1",but the front was fine. Someone on this board installed one and had to lengthen both shafts a little bit.

However, I've seen one that needed no driveshaft work after the lift was installed

If money is tight, plan on spending the money on the rear shaft. If the front need extending you can always wait and do that later when the money is there

[billyrb]

our 6" kit was designed to use the stock d-shafts, even at full flex.

[fulsizjeep]

Each person is on their own for that first cut.
After that, it gets easier...

[RED-85-Z51]

our 6" kit was designed to use the stock d-shafts, even at full flex.

That's what I needed to know.

When the oil pump stuff comes in today or Monday and it gets my oil pressure back up a little bit. Ill be ordering the 6" kit, shocks, lines, sway bar disconnects, track bar drop kit, Thorley headers, and that nice header back exhaust kit...

Then it's all body work after that pretty much.

[mattmopar440]

I dont think your being cheap by going procomps I think it's more if what you want out of the truck. Ranchos ride like Crap I have the ES3000 on my wag and the work good offroad and they ride exentlent on road

[Mark Wilde]

Initially when I did my 4" all-spring lift, I used the longer shocks that came with it (Rusty's), put in the bracket to lower the hardline on the rear axle, removed the track bars and that's it. I ran the stock brake lines, pitman arm and sway bar links. Have not had a problem with brake line length or flex. I've considered removing the sway bar in Ouray, and wish I would have last year, just for more flex on the front. I run BFG 31x10.50 TA/KO's and only rub on the INside of the rear wheel wells at full flex. I've since upgraded (?) to BJ's braided brake lines for 0-4" of lift and find them a little too long. I've considered going back to stock but am too lazy.