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Old 04-04-2011, 04:04 PM
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Thinking of doing a 3 inch bodylift anyone else done one? Any regrets? Pros and Cons? I would like to run 33's without a SOA although I may go ahead and do it anyway
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:09 PM
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Considering you've been to Jakes, and you know where the parts are, I would go SOA
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:10 PM
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:16 PM
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I've had a 3 inch body lift on a 79 J10 and a 88 GW. Never had a minutes trouble from either. The only redneck engineering needed is the shift linkage, that is if yours is an automatic. Nothing more than cutting linkage in a straight section of the bar then welding a 3 inch piece of steel pipe in between. As for the bumpers just remove bracket from frame and either re-drill holes or weld bracket to frame once bumper is in proper position. One last thing go to your local hardware store and get grade 8 bolts if the kit doesn't come with them.
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Old 04-04-2011, 05:16 PM
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Not a big fan of body lifts
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Old 04-04-2011, 05:45 PM
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Did one on my old DD 88 gw. After all the pita body bolts, having to cut open the floor to get to some of them, and the results that the lift produced, I would never do it again. At least on these jeeps.
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:51 PM
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Have you seen the pics of the wrecked FSJ that had a 3 in body lift?

The body separated from the chassis in a roll-over accident. The driver survived with cuts and bruises, but the truck was a total loss.
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:32 AM
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Have you seen the pics of the wrecked FSJ that had a 3 in body lift?
The body separated from the chassis in a roll-over accident. The driver survived with cuts and bruises, but the truck was a total loss.

I love how this accident is always referenced as though the body lift caused the accident. The truck just happened to have a body lift on it so now all body lifts are evil and dangerous. It's like saying "the fiberglass top came off my Bronco while it was rolling down the embankment so now they should outlaw removeable tops for all vehicles" which they unfortunately did. Problem is that body lifts have been made 100 different ways and out of 100 different materials including hockey pucks with 3/8" bolts. Kind of the way people "engineer" angled
drag links, if it works once, it will last forever. Most people don't think about long term. I've been running a 4" body lift (first on my J-2000 and later installed it on my Honcho) since 1984 without incident. Worst thing to happen was stress cracks on the cab (fixed) and they didn't start till I started offroading on rocks. I'm sure my rusted out frame mounts didn't help either. A 4" body lift nowadays is a joke but I wouldn't be opposed to a 2" or 3". Hardcore wheeling on rocks, I wouldn't go more than 2" and that would be with a flexible suspension. To each his/her own.

This topic stirs up more negativity than the FSJ Magazine/Jeep Junkie discussions.


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Old 04-05-2011, 10:50 AM
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I would not go more than 2" either IF I was inclined to install a body lift at all.

The FSJ/JJ Magazine hate is much more fun than the body lift hate IMO.
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Old 04-05-2011, 11:02 AM
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I would not go more than 2" either IF I was inclined to install a body lift at all.

The FSJ/JJ Magazine hate is much more fun than the body lift hate IMO.

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Any link to that picture?

I would not go for any higher then 1". I put one inch lift on my TJ and it looked awesome. I used the daystar kit that replaced all the rubber with poly, I think they make a kit for FSJ's too.

Dont you need to lengthen the fuel filler tube with a 3"?
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:11 PM
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Dont you need to lengthen the fuel filler tube with a 3"?

Nope, it can handle the stretch.
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:18 PM
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I have no idea what actually caused the driver to go off the road. Sorry if someone thought I was implying that body lift caused the accident. I do, however, think that the body lift was part of the reason for the chassis/body separation.

With my limited knowledge of leverage and how forces are multiplied over a distance, I would not want a 3" body lift.

Now, if you extended the frame mounting points and welded new "lifted" body mount points, you might be on to something. But at that point, you're better off with a lift kit and/or a saws-all.
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:29 PM
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My personal opinion is that the only time to do a "body" lift is for a little extra after the suspension lift is completed. But even then I am only about 10% for it. Mainly, I just don't like the look.
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:40 PM
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I want to say that I THINK I remember the engine coming out of the rolled over wag that the body came off of. That would imply some pretty horrendous G-forces at play that day (or bad motor mounts).
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They have pro's and cons. Just like suspension lifts. And block lifts. And SOA's. And any other major modification.

If your goal is larger tires, a body lift will help. The main point of running larger tires (aside from looks) is to gain ground clearance for your differentials/axles. Suspension lifts do not increase axle ground-clearance, at all. It's all about tire size.

A body lift can keep your center of gravity a little lower, also (which is a good thing on these rigs).

With a body lift, you will retain factory suspension and handling characteristics.

You will not need an alignment with a body lift.

If you're tight on money, I say go for it. Nothing over 3" at most, that would put a lot of stress on your body mounts.

Besides, you can always add a suspension lift later on down the road when you save up some more $!
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I want to say that I THINK I remember the engine coming out of the rolled over wag that the body came off of. That would imply some pretty horrendous G-forces at play that day (or bad motor mounts).

Where is this story/picture?
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It happened a few years ago and the owner/member posted pics.
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I have no experience with FSJ body lifts, but I will give you my body lift experience with my previous truck...

I had a 1994 Ford Explorer, solid axle D44 front end and ford 9" rear axle swapped in. 3" body lift. Total lift was like 11-12", running on 35's about to upgrade to 38's. I got hit head on by some dude in a honda CRV. I flew through the air at about 40 mph, landed on my side, rolled over and ended up in a ditch. My front axle was gone, my coil springs had exploded out the side of the truck and my radius arms were bent in half.

My body was still very firmly attatched, with no bending/sagging/otherwise negative effects cause by my body lift.

Just my $.02. Does this apply to FSJ's? Maybe. Maybe not. But they're not horrible kits. Am I gonna body lift my wag? Nope, mainly because I dont want to since I'm getting all the lift I want out of my SOA. But its your call, since it's your truck.
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