International Full Size Jeep Association
Home Forums Reader's Rigs Tech Library Trail Stories FSJ-List
International Full Size Jeep Association  

Go Back   International Full Size Jeep Association > Tech Archives > Topic Of The Month

Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-01-2004, 04:05 PM
trav trav is offline
New Member
Join Date: Nov 07, 2004
Location: ca
Posts: 2

My fathernlaw gave me a 89 jeep wrangler.Stock, I would appreciate do"s and dont"s on any up grades.
travis gray
Old 12-01-2004, 04:10 PM
jode's Avatar
jode jode is offline
JB Welder
Join Date: Apr 08, 2002
Location: Midway, Utah
Posts: 6,376

Don't buy Thornbird tires
Do go visit or
Don't put "No Fear" stickers on it
Don't EVER repair a Peugot transmission - just replace it with a better model (non-Peugot)
Do think about a locker ASAP (if you intend to drive offroad)
Don't buy trucknutz
Do thank your fatherinlaw - I wish mine would give me a jeep
No FSJs for the time being - "I'm working on it, I'm working on it" (think Mike Meyers' SNL skit about the gut)
Old 12-01-2004, 04:31 PM
jode's Avatar
jode jode is offline
JB Welder
Join Date: Apr 08, 2002
Location: Midway, Utah
Posts: 6,376

Well, I run a Detroit gearless locker and I rolled my Wagoneer yesterday, so that is definately a good choice if you are looking for excitment in the snow.

Seriously though, the very best are selectable lockers that can be turned on or off at will (ARB, OX, Electrac, etc.) and of those, I would probably say that the ones that act as limited slips while disengaged would be the best. However, selectables cost considerable more than the "automatic" ones like a Detroit or a Lockright.

You will most likely need to use your new best friend ( to search around and find out what will work best for you by what has worked best for others.
My advice is to do some serious thinking about what this vehicle will be used for. Any and all modifications that you do should be done with the intention to create a vehicle that is best-suited for your specific type of driving. In other words, tell us what you want your vehicle to be, and we can tell you what kind of modifications you need to do to it to get it to that state of being.

EDIT - hey - you deleted your post, so now mine looks like the ramblings of a delirious fool...what happened?

[ December 01, 2004, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: jode ]
Old 12-02-2004, 04:17 AM
kong kong is offline
Grease Monkey
Join Date: Jun 29, 2002
Location: St. George, UT
Posts: 357


You are a ramblin' fool! I bet your wife isn't too happy about the rollover.

Back to the subject....

One thing I'd do is visit your local junkyard and make sure you have a few good vehicles you can strip parts off of.

First thing I'd do is TFI upgrade, you can find lots of posts on this, or ramblin' Jode will come and do it for you He's crazy!
Lots o Mods
25 mpg. umm wait, no... 2.5 mpg
Old 12-02-2004, 05:33 AM
FSJ Thing's Avatar
FSJ Thing FSJ Thing is offline
Propane Protagonist
Join Date: Aug 25, 2002
Location: Granite Falls, WA 98252
Posts: 3,824

My advice is to trade it in for a FULL SIZE Jeep.
The Cherowagladabego Project. Updates coming as soon as I do something update worthy.

Bring back Junk Yard Genius! he may have peed in some of your cornflakes, but everything he told me was helpful!
Old 12-02-2004, 12:09 PM
gwinn's Avatar
gwinn gwinn is offline
360 AMC
Join Date: Nov 05, 2001
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 3,439

Yeah, the first mod you have to consider is an upgrade to a FSJ. The rest really aren't as crucial. [img]smile.gif[/img]
1983 Cherokee Laredo "Gus"

Old 12-02-2004, 11:24 PM
fulsizjeep's Avatar
fulsizjeep fulsizjeep is offline
Señor Jackhead
Join Date: Aug 21, 2002
Location: Jubilee Jeeps.SWCO
Posts: 22,391

My 1st Jeep was a 72 J4000 in 76. I would thank him and trade up... You won't regret it.

[ December 03, 2004, 05:25 AM: Message edited by: Flint ]
Ran when parked.
88 GW, 401/727/208, 5" lift, D44s/4.10s/locked up, 35s with a few Evil Twin & TT's Fabworks mods
76 401 Wag, 77 401 Wag, 77 401 J20
Old 12-03-2004, 07:27 AM
Rockmedic Rockmedic is offline
Join Date: Oct 04, 2004
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
Posts: 146

Wranglers are great. I had one for several years and never had any real problems. The point is every one has a wrangler, they are every where. If you really want a Jeep that stands out and you wont see at every intersection BUY A FULL SIZE. I just bought my first and love it. sure it takes a little work, ok a lot of work to keep one up but what the h*ll it fun.
Old 12-06-2004, 02:43 AM
Bombadier's Avatar
Bombadier Bombadier is offline
FSJ Maniac
Join Date: Dec 06, 2001
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,508


Thanks for that pic... It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling seeing a picture like that while I'm here in Iraq....

Some guys dig Maxim and P-boy mags....
My library here consists of 4x4 literature....
Yup, I'm sick....

BTW, as for first Jeeps... Get an FSJ, and the sickness grows to include little Jeeps... Just get ready to warm up those Craftsmans, 'cause FSJs love the attention.
Why do I carry a gun? Because a whole cop would be too heavy.

Originally posted by 2MANY4X'S2FIX:
I just want her to suck, squeeze, bang, and blow as reliably as the rest of the fleet. Is that too much too ask?

1981 Cherokee Laredo W/T

Like MountainBiking?

Visit the Land of Off-Topic
Old 12-07-2004, 10:53 AM
fulsizjeep's Avatar
fulsizjeep fulsizjeep is offline
Señor Jackhead
Join Date: Aug 21, 2002
Location: Jubilee Jeeps.SWCO
Posts: 22,391

Yer welcome Joel... Hang in there man! [img]smile.gif[/img]
Ran when parked.
88 GW, 401/727/208, 5" lift, D44s/4.10s/locked up, 35s with a few Evil Twin & TT's Fabworks mods
76 401 Wag, 77 401 Wag, 77 401 J20
Old 12-07-2004, 01:53 PM
DerekTJeep DerekTJeep is offline
Turbocharged Quandary
Join Date: Mar 28, 2003
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 5,363

This is picture of my first 2 Jeeps. ENjoy!!

1999 Chevy Express 3500 cargo van

1997 Mercury Mountaineer

AIM: derektjeep

224 805 0773 text message is the king!!!

Find me on facebook under Derek Troy
Old 12-07-2004, 07:42 PM
rockcandy rockcandy is offline
Bleedin' Gasoline
Join Date: Aug 20, 2003
Location: Edmond, Ok
Posts: 1,806

If it is the manual, don't bother to fix it if it breaks. If it is an auto, that is a good tranny. In my opinion, a locker or two will make the most dramatic improvement in offroad prowess of any mod. Before lift, tires, etc. If your still sticking with stock size tires up to 33" tires, lunchbox lockers can be had for about $225. If you have the 4.2, I am sorry. It is a good engine but your year suffers from a crappy carb system. '91 and newer has fuel injection. If it is a 4 cylinder your good to go. Never do a Super 35 kit. Visit
That is a good site if your new to Jeeps. Never invest in 4:1 kits for an NP231. If you go that far, swap to an atlas or flipped 300. If you lift it, stay away from Pro Comp. Spring over is the better way to go anyway. Invest in a good cage. Drive safe and if you don't know what the things I mentioned search search! There is more information on the web than you will ever need to know.
1979 waggy, one ton WT conversion going on...

1979 golden eagle on through donations across the country
Old 12-08-2004, 01:36 PM
mudslider's Avatar
mudslider mudslider is offline
304 AMC
Join Date: Sep 26, 2004
Location: Tampa, Fl
Posts: 2,475

there will be good times and there will be fustrating times ahead. but you will have good times with it.
Stupidity rules at all times! Famous last words "Hey, watch this" Its 5:00 Somewhere. 1983 J10 In process: 360 ci install
Old 12-16-2004, 10:18 AM
NOI54X NOI54X is offline
New Member
Join Date: Dec 15, 2004
Location: Sultan,Wa.
Posts: 17

My first jeep was 46 CJ-2A,owned some kind of a jeep for past 24 yrs.Just haven't found the right one yet.
Old 12-19-2004, 06:56 AM
ross6x6 ross6x6 is offline
New Member
Join Date: Oct 09, 2004
Location: Andover, Hampshire, U.K.
Posts: 1

English 1979 AMC Cherokee Chief.
Well done for going for the free jeep wrangler!
Lots of folk here in U.K. drive Japanese 4X4's and also new'ish Cherokee's (downsize shape) Grand Cherokee's and new curvey Cherokee's. Wranglers etc are rarer. A few months ago I bought an old blue Chief - stock apart from big wheels & tyres + 5" body lift. Its good - but rusty so needs body off to derust/paint chassis and replace brake pipes with copper Kunifer pipe. I'll post pictures when I have some. These and Cherokee S were official imports into southern england (Andover, Hampshire) around 1978 to '81.
Old 12-20-2004, 08:45 AM
J10Mike's Avatar
J10Mike J10Mike is offline
Delightfully Incompetent
Join Date: Jun 04, 2003
Location: St. Louis, Mo. 63052
Posts: 5,811

here is a pic from 1980 of my first Jeep. 67 j2000 gladiator thriftside.
Former - 1982 J10 Sportside, 360, TFI, 727/208, J20 axles, D44HD/Detroit TruTrac, D60/Detroit Locker, D60 disk brake conversion, 4.10s, 5 inch Superlift, 35x12.5x16.5 BFGs on AR767 Wheels. Procomp Super Seats. MileMarker 9000 on Cliffhanger front bumper. Dozer II rear bumper. Rhino Grill conversion. NP208 floor shifter conversion.

Old 12-21-2004, 06:24 AM
Carl Rasmussen's Avatar
Carl Rasmussen Carl Rasmussen is offline
Master Mechanic
Join Date: Mar 11, 2004
Location: Fuquay Varina NC
Posts: 862

my First jeep was a 1968 DJ5 2wd with a 153 chev 4cyl sm420 trans and a rear d44 3.73's
Then I upgraded to a 64 j200 with a 350 chev tuned port, sm465,np205
then I really upgraded to my now 1984 J10
93 chev 350,4sp auto,np241
Carl Rasmussen
No more cable bills
Android TV box Full setup and configured $150
Old 12-21-2004, 11:34 AM
DieselSJ's Avatar
DieselSJ DieselSJ is offline
Bleedin' Gasoline
Join Date: May 19, 2003
Location: QC, AZ
Posts: 1,917

My first Jeep was (and still is) a '81 CJ5 Renegade. Came stock with a 4cyl and SR-4 trans. Still a great Jeep. Sitting in my garage awaiting a carb rebuild and some other fuel system repairs as a result of running about an 80% methanol mix to get it to pass smog, but that is a story for another day.

The other guys have covered the basic mods. Lift, lockers, tires. Keep the tire size moderate or you will be looking at a gear swap to get your power back.
-87 Grand, 6.5L diesel, MHI TE06H turbo, Water/air intercooler, Art Carr 700R4, CS-130, hydroboost. 21/24mpg, dead 229 [Custom 242 on the way]
-99 XJ Limited.
-Jeepspeed 1717 -Built 4.0, FAST EFI, Rubicon Express, Bilstein, Rigid Industries, 4 Wheel Parts, G2 Axle, Currie Enterprises
-Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association
Old 12-22-2004, 02:05 AM
J4GRAND's Avatar
J4GRAND J4GRAND is offline
J4000 Restoration Specialist
Join Date: Apr 09, 2000
Location: Valparaiso, IN, USA
Posts: 5,931

Here is a (blurry) pic of the first FSJ I ever drove. It was my sister's in WY; a 73 J4000 3/4 ton with a 360, TH400, and Dana 20.

Patrick V.
73 J4000 "The $LUT" 360 V8 bored .040 over Edelbrock 2131 1407 4V carb K8600 cam Dual Flowmaster 40 mufflers TH400 QT 3.73 Dana 44s
78 Cherokee Chief WT "Old Blue" 360 V8 4V TH400 QT
05 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.7 V6 5 speed automatic with new QT
Old 12-22-2004, 12:36 PM
74chero 74chero is offline
Master Mechanic
Join Date: Jul 05, 2004
Location: Sherwood, OR 97140
Posts: 943

My first car is a jeep and I still have it, here is a pic.

[ January 11, 2005, 08:06 PM: Message edited by: 74chero ]
1990 grand wagoneer that needs a lift

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:44 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
corner corner