My 71 Wagoneer Project so far (lots of pics)

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  • Dr Teeth
    258 I6
    • Nov 14, 2006
    • 381

    My 71 Wagoneer Project so far (lots of pics)

    So here's what I've got so far... I bought the truck in August with a tired Buick 350, a leaky radiator, and a bad master cylinder. I thought I'd just fix one or two things, drive it, and get into the big stuff later... silly me.

    Here's the closest pic to what I started with, as you can see at this point I'd already stripped the interior to address some minor rust in the floor. Plans are to fix the rust and then put Hippoliner (bedliner) over the entire floor. I've had it colormatched to the interior.

    Here's the Buick Engine coming out. All the hoses were rotten and I came into a chevy engine for cheap so instead of driving it I just started tearing it apart further.

    So, I worked a little more and then had the realization that there were only about three things left to disconnect to take the body off the frame. I also at this point decided to rewire the whole thing while I was at it (probably just order a painless wiring kit... still looking). So here's the body coming off the frame (you can see I've done some trimming on the rear quarters to get rid of some rust).

    As with any project it is good to have help. Here's my 2 year old daughter getting into it.

    So this weekend's project was painting the frame and engine compartment. The neighbors liked having the jeep up on blocks... they really started to give me the looks when I rolled the frame out on to the lawn to paint it.

    Here's a before of the frame showing the Novak Engine mounts in place. I put the driver's side in a lower set of holes and will machine a spacer for that side to keep from having to grind into the horizontal member for clearance of the steering column. You can also see my custom front receiver mount for my winch.

    And here's how it looks with some paint...

    Here's the frame with some paint.

    While it's all out this is the time to clean up and paint the engine compartment too.

    Next will be some fun as I finally get to start putting somethings back together on the frame. Here's the engine with the serpentine belt system installed (144 amp alt.) the tranny has been rebuilt with a shift kit and the seals replaced in the transfer case.

    Hopefully this next week start piecing it back together. I'll try to get up some pictures as the build progresses and I'll start a seperate thread later on the custom rear bumper (I figure the site could use another custom bumper thread!).

    Thanks for checking it out, I'm having a great time so far.

    Todd
    1971 Wagoneer Buildup:
    Part I: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=66564
    Part II: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=69476
    Part III: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=80046
    Part IV: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=87303
    Part V: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=129156
  • Kenall
    Moderator

    Moderator
    • Apr 15, 2000
    • 2886

    #2
    How did you address the issue of tranny tilt when switching from OE th400 to GM th400?
    Ken's:
    1966 Super Wagoneer
    5.7L 2BBl. Th700R4. NP-208. Opens. 3.31s. 4core. 4Discs. PS,PB,AC,CC,Cassette.
    (Soon to be TBI)
    "If it aint leaking, it's empty!"

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    • letank
      AMC 4 OH! 1
      • Jun 03, 2002
      • 4129

      #3
      very impressive.... congratulations.

      how do you trust those 2x4 sawhorses.....

      I am due for a bodyswap.... and collecting any usefull pieces of informations.....
      Michel
      74 wag, 349Kmiles on original ticker/trany, except for the rust. Will it make it to the next get together without a rebuilt? Status: needs a new body.
      85 Gwag, 229 Kmiles. $250 FSJ test lab since 02, that refuses to give up but still leaks.

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      • KaiserMan
        I got the Willys....
        • Jun 21, 2005
        • 8702

        #4
        Looking good. That Wagoneer is going to be really sweet when it's done.
        Thomas Russell
        1987 Cherokee Laredo 2-Door 4.0/AW4
        1971 Gladiator
        J2000 Platform-Stake Dump 350/T18

        1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
        1968 Wagoneer Custom 327/TH400

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        • Dr Teeth
          258 I6
          • Nov 14, 2006
          • 381

          #5
          Originally posted by Kenall
          How did you address the issue of tranny tilt when switching from OE th400 to GM th400?
          The rear mount is off the transmission tailpiece to transfer case adaptor so it stayed constant in the swap. Prior to pulling the Buick I took two measurements. I marked the tallest point of the carb bolt so as to have an idea of hood clearance, and I marked a spot on the frame and measured to the center bolt of the lowest pulley (center of the crankshaft) both right to left and vertically. I then positioned the Chevy engine/tranny/transfer case in the truck, bolted in the rear mount and positioned the front to be level, and with the center bolt of the lower pulley in the same position as the Buick. This should place the engine in effectively the same spot as stock with the same angle front to back, etc. I only used the top of carb measurement to double check that I didn't have the engine up too high.
          1971 Wagoneer Buildup:
          Part I: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=66564
          Part II: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=69476
          Part III: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=80046
          Part IV: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=87303
          Part V: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=129156

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          • Dr Teeth
            258 I6
            • Nov 14, 2006
            • 381

            #6
            Originally posted by letank
            very impressive.... congratulations.

            how do you trust those 2x4 sawhorses.....

            I am due for a bodyswap.... and collecting any usefull pieces of informations.....
            You may see in the last photos that the front crossmember of the sawhorse got switched from a 2x4 to a 2x6 as it was bowing a little more than I liked. I think it's fairly stable except for a large hit from the side would do it in. Basically I originally thought I could work a bit on the body while it was up, but once I got it there I changed my mind and now only plan on working on it once it's back on the frame.

            To pull the body I used two engine hoists. One in through the tailgate and one through the driver's side door. I ran eyebolts through body mounts conected to a chain (which I ran through a 2x4 with holes drilled in it to keep the eyebolts from tweeking the sheetmetal off to the side) and then lifted front and rear simultaneously. I picked it up high enough that I could roll the frame in and out without taking off the tires as the next step is to roll the frame into the garage to put in the engine, gas tank, and run all my hard lines before putting the body back on.
            1971 Wagoneer Buildup:
            Part I: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=66564
            Part II: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=69476
            Part III: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=80046
            Part IV: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=87303
            Part V: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=129156

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            • back2spool
              232 I6
              • Sep 07, 2006
              • 245

              #7
              Looks awesome.

              One thing I love about the pics is that it looks like you did all that in one day. Keep it up! Save another one!
              There's a Waggy out there/lookin' for me somewhere...

              Seeking a Grand Waggy, farewell blue Bomber!!
              '02 Grand Cherokee--The Clone
              '95 YJ--Armageddon Vehicle

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              • Tad
                • Nov 30, 2001
                • 17618

                #8
                Very Nice!

                Hang onto those FSJ Buick brackets and motor mount towers, folks here seem to loose those a lot around here.
                2000 Infinity QX4, 3.3L, MPFI, 4 speed auto, 2 speed Nissan tcase, Unibody, IFS front, 4 link rear solid axle with 255-70/16s

                IFSJA WMS PROJECT
                EARLY WAG LIFT SEARCH

                ...Pay no attention to these heathen barbarians with their cutting torches and 8" lift kits!...
                Self Inflicted Flesh Wound

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                • Deacon
                  232 I6
                  • Feb 17, 2007
                  • 60

                  #9
                  Very nice. You should be very proud.
                  You just don't see many people doing their own work.
                  Jeep - There's only one.
                  But, is one enough?

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                  • FSJ-Earl
                    304 AMC
                    • May 02, 2003
                    • 1574

                    #10
                    Check out ZM JEEPS for a exact fit wiring harness!
                    FSJ-Earl
                    2002 F350 Diesel - tow rig / family hauler
                    2008 4 door JK Rubicon - Wife's Daily Driver
                    1989 GW - the one that started it all
                    1983 - J15 - J10 body + J20 running gear = J15 Trail rig

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                    • willam
                      350 Buick
                      • Jul 12, 2005
                      • 805

                      #11
                      How did you prep your frame for paint? Powerwash or sandblast? Also, what is your setup for painting? Type of gun and capacity of the compressor? or did you rattlecan it? Sooner or later I'll be involved in similar exploites and need abvise on equipment. BTW - that's so very sweet, your neighbors must be loving you. Nice work.

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                      • 79_Limited
                        304 AMC
                        • Mar 28, 2003
                        • 1612

                        #12
                        Looks awesome!

                        By the way is that a convertible in the garage? Do tell.
                        79 Wagoneer Limited Quadratrac Milemarker part-time conversion

                        New paint link: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...NewPaint26.jpg

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                        • Heep80
                          258 I6
                          • Apr 27, 2006
                          • 260

                          #13
                          Yah! diggin' it! just get her a flash light, and keep her busy! hahaha. keep us updated
                          80 J-10 with 3in RC lift,1 in. shackles, buckshot M/T 33's. dual glasspack exhaust,eldobrock intake/carb/valve covers/aircleaner k&n, autometer tach, spare tire mount w/ fullsize spare,tool box, 40gal spare tank, grant steering wheel, rhino grill,DPA (Not installed Doug T's Headers, Hi lift jack, cobra cb,tie rods, & dual timing chain

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                          • Dr Teeth
                            258 I6
                            • Nov 14, 2006
                            • 381

                            #14
                            Originally posted by willam
                            How did you prep your frame for paint? Powerwash or sandblast? Also, what is your setup for painting? Type of gun and capacity of the compressor? or did you rattlecan it? Sooner or later I'll be involved in similar exploites and need abvise on equipment. BTW - that's so very sweet, your neighbors must be loving you. Nice work.
                            If you really want to do it right, I would want to sandblast the frame, but my frame had very little rust and I didn't feel like paying some one to sandblast it so here's what I did:

                            First I borrowed a pressure washer from a friend and blasted the heck out of everything. Then I scraped off all the really caked on grease with screwdrivers, small sticks, whatever was handy. I took the frame to a spray and wash place that had some kind of "degreaser" setting and blasted it again. Then I went over everything I could with a wire wheel until it completely disintigrated. Then I used a heavy grit flapper sandpaper disk until I destroyed it. Finally my daughter and I washed the whole frame with soapy water and heavy bristle brushes (my daughter likes to play with the hose so she was actually helpful). Then I was sick of that so I just decided hell with it, I'm painting over whatever is left.

                            For the paint, I don't know much but I have friends that do. I don't have a really big compressor so my friend recomended buying a newer LVLP (low volume low pressure) spray gun so the compressor could keep up with it. I found one for about $100 and I think it was well worth it.
                            1971 Wagoneer Buildup:
                            Part I: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=66564
                            Part II: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=69476
                            Part III: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=80046
                            Part IV: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=87303
                            Part V: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=129156

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                            • Dr Teeth
                              258 I6
                              • Nov 14, 2006
                              • 381

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 79_Limited
                              Looks awesome!

                              By the way is that a convertible in the garage? Do tell.
                              That's my daily driver... a 1964 Mercury Park Lane Convertible. It gets me to work in style.
                              1971 Wagoneer Buildup:
                              Part I: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=66564
                              Part II: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=69476
                              Part III: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=80046
                              Part IV: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=87303
                              Part V: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=129156

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