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Old 11-23-2009, 11:44 PM
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Power steering pump OR Steering box???

I had power steering issues on my 77 Honcho 401. Since it never left town I put up with the "sometimes I have power steering sometimes I don't issue" It would get hard to turn sometimes like it lost all power, squeal like a stuck hog the other times. I figured it was the pump and one day not long ago I shreded a good condition belt right off it during a squealing event out in the driveway.
So I figure the pump is bad and strip it off the brackets to replace. I eventually traded Red Mistress here for one so I kept my old one near the work bench in the garage. Motor is apart so the new one has not been hooked up yet.
Now comes the screwey part...........
Insert Grandwag85, Sean, into the picture.. He arrives at the house last week with no power steering. I get the pump from a 1976 Honcho that was parted down and we were going to reconfigure it to fit into an International Harvester Truck. Not a big deal just swap out some ports from one to the other and fab up a tension bracket.
Walla...... CornDawg now has power steering Sean goes on his way. This week I get out in the garage re-arranging some stuff. One thing I picked up was the 1976 power steering pump and the old IH power steering pump. Somehow we got the 77 ( dead pump??) from my Honcho mixed up and that is what got the new fittings and installed in the IH. It works

Sooooooooooo....
Is this some "Sean Zone" type thing or could my trouble of been in my steering box and not the pump?
Why would that almost new belt shred off during a screeching event?
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Old 11-24-2009, 07:21 AM
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Sounds like either your box has collected too much crappola (you'd be surprised what comes out of them...) or maybe one of the balls went crunch. When I've botched reassembly by not alternating one of the different sized balls the box would do just that.... roll along and then grab. Air pockets can do similar things but a full lock up sound like the box needs a rebuild.
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:43 AM
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Looks like I'll swap it out when I get that far. I want J20 running gear anyway in the Honcho.
I suspected the box a few times because of its jerky type lock up. We use some bearings set up like this system. Loose a ball and it creates havoc on the rest.
AT least I have a NOS pump ready for it
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1980 J20 Utility bed truck. Factory cab and chassis truck. Many new mods for it but it will look all stock.
1985 J10 nothing special just a nice clean stock truck.
1977 Honcho "Blue" 401/400/quad. Under going major upgrades.."This is Not Your Fathers Honcho", it may not even be a Honcho anymore when done.
2017 Challenger. Very jealous of the Jeeps.
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Old 11-25-2009, 08:55 AM
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NOS gearboxes

I had 4 NOS gearboxes 1 of them J20, that used the flare style fittings.

They went to Belgium.
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Old 11-25-2009, 09:47 AM
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Sooooooooooo....
Is this some "Sean Zone" type thing
OH MY! The Sean Zone

You're traveling through another dimension (mostly walking), a dimension not only of the sight of broken parts and the sounds of leaking fluids but of mind;
a journey into a wondrous land whose automotive boundaries are that of the imagination of a showroom new ride — Next stop, the SEAN Zone.


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Old 11-26-2009, 01:53 AM
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OH MY! The Sean Zone

You're traveling through another dimension (mostly walking), a dimension not only of the sight of broken parts and the sounds of leaking fluids but of mind;
a journey into a wondrous land whose automotive boundaries are that of the imagination of a showroom new ride — Next stop, the SEAN Zone.


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1980 J20 Utility bed truck. Factory cab and chassis truck. Many new mods for it but it will look all stock.
1985 J10 nothing special just a nice clean stock truck.
1977 Honcho "Blue" 401/400/quad. Under going major upgrades.."This is Not Your Fathers Honcho", it may not even be a Honcho anymore when done.
2017 Challenger. Very jealous of the Jeeps.
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:52 PM
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