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Old 08-30-2016, 07:11 PM
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Buying a J3000.....DRW

Just agreed to buy this 1968 J3000 dually. It's a factory 161" wheel base Buick 350/T18 rig. It's rough. Really could use a cab, but the frame looks good other than typical surface rust and some light pitting. The odometer shows 24K. Pretty sure this used to be a chassis mount camper.

Truck is pretty unique. The frame rails are one stamping, it hasn't been spliced together. The flat section of the frame has been reinforced (looks factory), It has a two piece rear driveshaft and is very well optioned.

It's a Custom Cab, has a large back window, PS (pump isn't on right now), PB, bucket seats, tinted glass, Lock-O-Matic hubs and transfer case mounted parking brake.

Motor is supposed to be rebuilt and runs great. Aftermarket 4bbl intake and carb, stainless (according to the owner) headers.

It runs, drives and stops. Worst part is that a couple of the wheels are rotted.

Note the plate on the left side of the frame behind the cab. Owner says it's only on that side and the frame is rock solid behind it. No clue why it's there.















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Old 08-30-2016, 08:17 PM
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Congrats on a great find! Welcome to the dually club! More pics please. I might have a line on a wheel if you can't find one.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:25 PM
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I'll snap a bunch when I'm up there (it's a 7 hour round trip for me) this weekend.

Looks nicer in the pics, but what doesn't right?

I think it needs ALL the rear wheels. At least the inners. That's going to be rough! I'll shoot you a PM if I can't end up getting some. I was thinking of getting an 8 lug wheel redrilled.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:50 PM
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I hope at least some of the wheels are good. They are so hard to find. I also thought about having some other wheels re-drilled but no one could(or would) do the coining needed to get the proper lock between the wheels after mounting. Coining is the raised ridge around every other bolt hole with a depression around the other holes that makes them fit together as a unit when mounted for strength I suppose.
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Old 08-31-2016, 04:40 AM
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Could always use a pin in one and a hole in the other to lock them together like Ford (I think it's Ford) does.

Does yours have left and right hand threads on the wheel studs?
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:06 AM
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I am envious, congrats for this new one
As i wrote when i saw the post of the previous owner on fsjnetwork, it's one of the very last dually from the factory : one can deduce from some service bulletins from the sixties with serial numbers that only a few dozen duallies were produced in Toledo with the Buick engine and it's one of them ! Moreover this example is very well optioned according to your description and the pics.
By the way i thought that the rigs with an extended frame were special orders with the specific plate below the VIN plate, it seems that this one does'nt have the plate, maybe an aftermarket extension when converted to a chassis mounted camper ?
If you change the cab, please keep the emblems, doors panels and these great bucket seats to stay stock.
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Old 09-01-2016, 10:21 AM
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I hope at least some of the wheels are good. They are so hard to find. I also thought about having some other wheels re-drilled but no one could(or would) do the coining needed to get the proper lock between the wheels after mounting. Coining is the raised ridge around every other bolt hole with a depression around the other holes that makes them fit together as a unit when mounted for strength I suppose.

My machinist friend said it shouldn't be a problem drilling 8 lug wheels to 6. And I've got 6 free Ford wheels sitting on a dually at work that's heading to the scrap yard soon.

I'm not sure how necessary the coining is. GM dually wheels don't have anything locking them together. Ford seems to have a pin.
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Old 09-01-2016, 12:33 PM
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Nice Thomas. Amazingly clean for an east coast rig.
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Old 09-04-2016, 03:01 AM
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Making such large stamping dies is insanely expensive. I can't imagine Jeep doing that in order to build a handful of vehicles.
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Old 09-04-2016, 06:04 AM
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That's what I'm thinking. But until I see another one done in the exact same manner it's any ones guess as to who stretched this thing. It's well done, and has held together for the last 47 years so I'm not worried about it.
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Old 09-05-2016, 05:43 PM
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1970 Gladiator J3000 3407Z Camper Truck 350/T18
1963 Gladiator J300 Townside 350/TH400

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Old 09-06-2016, 05:33 AM
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That nail ignition key is uber rare! Nice truck and even better score. Can't beat the Buick powered units.
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Old 09-06-2016, 06:08 PM
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The PO put WAY too much effort into that ignition switch!

I found a Knapheide 12'x8' flat bed for $250 I might be buying this weekend. It's only 4" wider than the factory dually width beds.

I've ordered everything for the brakes except a new master, and I should be buying 6 new Power King 7.50-16 snow tires for it this week.
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