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  • Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
    Cherokee Outlaw
    • Jan 10, 2006
    • 7292

    The Lemoore Project

    Long story short, I will have to be putting my old Cherokee back into daily driver service. Before I sold my DD Dodge, parked the Jeep, and left for deployment the 360 had a bad lifter tick, was smoking from the left bank exhaust, and my oil pressure had dropped a little bit. My transfer case was also having issues with staying in gear, whining, and leaking like a sieve. So as I am preparing to come home from my 7 month deployment in the Arabian Gulf I am preemptively ordering parts and preparing for a slight refresh before I transfer from the great Pacific Northwest and drive down to Lemoore, CA for the next 3 years.
    As for the engine the plan of attack will be to replace the cam/lifters, cam bearings, timing set, oil pump and swap on a set of '71 401 heads I've had laying around from Ristow. The transmission will get new fluid, filter, gaskets, and cooler lines while the transfer case will be treated to a full rebuild.
    The rig is in decent shape otherwise. Other things that will be checked are all other fluids, brakes, suspension, and rear axle bearings.

    My parts list so far includes:
    -Melling MTA-1 camshaft kit (with lifters)
    -Melling timing set
    -Melling freeze plugs
    -Melling oil pump gear set
    -King camshaft bearing set
    -Edelbrock "Sure Seat" valve springs
    -Dorman harmonic balancer
    -Fel-Pro gasket set and intake valley pan
    -Novak Dana 20 rebuild kit

    Pics and write-up are to follow when I get stateside in a couple weeks. I'll sure be busy!
    Last edited by Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81; 12-07-2016, 01:23 AM. Reason: Spelling
    -Jonny B.
    1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
    AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
    NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
    F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
    R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker

    1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
    1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
    1979 Wagoneer - Sold
    1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed
  • Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
    Cherokee Outlaw
    • Jan 10, 2006
    • 7292

    #2
    Just got my '71 heads back from being pressure checked and they're both cracked through a water jacket pretty badly. So they're junk. Guess I have to add pistons, rings, and more machine work to my list. On a bright note, all my parts made it!
    -Jonny B.
    1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
    AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
    NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
    F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
    R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker

    1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
    1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
    1979 Wagoneer - Sold
    1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed

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    • bkilby
      350 Buick
      • Jan 10, 2016
      • 1083

      #3
      Bummer about the heads. I have a set of heads off my 360 here in SoCal if you're interested. Btw, I had a Melling oil pump gear that was bad from the factory. Might want to check yours for flaws.
      1974 Cherokee S. It's driving but needs more work. As usual!

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      • Ristow
        • Jan 20, 2006
        • 17292

        #4
        yah,they crack on the corners. i told you that when i gave them to you y'know....
        Originally posted by Hankrod
        Ristows right.................again,


        Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
        ... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.


        Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
        I LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!

        It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...

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        • mattmopar440
          AMC 4 OH! 1
          • May 17, 2007
          • 4092

          #5
          Originally posted by Ristow
          yah,they crack on the corners. i told you that when i gave them to you y'know....

          yea the problem is that was 6 years ago LOL Jon cant remember what he did last week
          87' Grand Wagoneer
          401/727/229, Currently:RUNNING
          84 J10/20 hybrid 258/727/208 Daily Driver
          80' J10 4BT/AX-15/208
          74' J10 Go Grabber Green Sold
          Originally posted by Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
          Inferior Chevy

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          • mattmopar440
            AMC 4 OH! 1
            • May 17, 2007
            • 4092

            #6
            stop messing around with those little 360's and get a big boy engine jon
            87' Grand Wagoneer
            401/727/229, Currently:RUNNING
            84 J10/20 hybrid 258/727/208 Daily Driver
            80' J10 4BT/AX-15/208
            74' J10 Go Grabber Green Sold
            Originally posted by Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
            Inferior Chevy

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            • Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
              Cherokee Outlaw
              • Jan 10, 2006
              • 7292

              #7
              Originally posted by Ristow
              yah,they crack on the corners. i told you that when i gave them to you y'know....
              Yea, I kind of half expected it but was hoping for the best. No worries here.
              -Jonny B.
              1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
              7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
              AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
              NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
              F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
              R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker

              1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
              1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
              1979 Wagoneer - Sold
              1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed

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              • Ristow
                • Jan 20, 2006
                • 17292

                #8
                Some guys run them that way. CAn of stop leak for good measure. I'd go with pistons and big chamber heads.
                Originally posted by Hankrod
                Ristows right.................again,


                Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
                ... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.


                Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
                I LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!

                It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...

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                • Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
                  Cherokee Outlaw
                  • Jan 10, 2006
                  • 7292

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ristow
                  Some guys run them that way. Can of stop leak for good measure. I'd go with pistons and big chamber heads.
                  The machine shop said they leaked like sieves on the pressure tester. The cracks are actually pretty visible as they are, I can only imagine them getting larger when you torque them down. After just getting out from under a Cummins Dodge with a cracked block I'm not looking to mess with any more stop leak. I'm on the fence now on building a 360 with 343 pistons like SC/397 did or finding a virgin 401 to build. Being a die hard 360 guy and an even more die hard cheap-Expletive Deleted!Expletive Deleted!Expletive Deleted!Expletive Deleted!Expletive Deleted! I'll probably go the 360/343 route. I just love beating up on the gung-ho 401 guys with 41 less cubes
                  Last edited by Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81; 01-05-2017, 08:49 PM.
                  -Jonny B.
                  1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
                  7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
                  AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
                  NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
                  F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
                  R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker

                  1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
                  1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
                  1979 Wagoneer - Sold
                  1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed

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                  • Ristow
                    • Jan 20, 2006
                    • 17292

                    #10
                    i wouldn't go looking for a 401. the 360's run nicer. shoot for 10-1 compression and go. pedestal heads would be nice in the big chamber. put 1.7 rockers on.
                    Originally posted by Hankrod
                    Ristows right.................again,


                    Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
                    ... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.


                    Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
                    I LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!

                    It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...

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                    • bkilby
                      350 Buick
                      • Jan 10, 2016
                      • 1083

                      #11
                      Ristow, what's the factory rocker arm ratio? 1.6? I wouldn't mind running 1.7 on mine if I knew they'd work.
                      1974 Cherokee S. It's driving but needs more work. As usual!

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                      • Ristow
                        • Jan 20, 2006
                        • 17292

                        #12
                        yeah,1.6.

                        i ran 1.7 roller tips on my 401,with 9.5 pistons,and a performer grind. the extra lift lets more thru the valve,with little affect on duration. it ran nice.
                        Originally posted by Hankrod
                        Ristows right.................again,


                        Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
                        ... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.


                        Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
                        I LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!

                        It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...

                        Comment

                        • Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
                          Cherokee Outlaw
                          • Jan 10, 2006
                          • 7292

                          #13
                          Who makes 1.7 ratio pedestal mount rockers for AMC? Regular? Roller tip? Full roller? $$$$?
                          -Jonny B.
                          1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
                          7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
                          AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
                          NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
                          F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
                          R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker

                          1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
                          1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
                          1979 Wagoneer - Sold
                          1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed

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                          • Ristow
                            • Jan 20, 2006
                            • 17292

                            #14
                            they are the same as ford small block. so look for ford small block 1.7. i have a set of comp cam knock offs here. i wonder if that guy in florida has any more of the good steel ones like i had....
                            Originally posted by Hankrod
                            Ristows right.................again,


                            Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
                            ... like the little 'you know what's' that you are.


                            Originally posted by Fasts79Chief
                            I LOVE how Ristow has stolen my comment about him ... "Quoted" it ... and made himself famous for being an ***hole to people. Hahahahahahahahahha!

                            It's like you're unraveling a big cable-knit sweater that someone keeps knitting...and knitting...and knitting...and knitting...

                            Comment

                            • Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
                              Cherokee Outlaw
                              • Jan 10, 2006
                              • 7292

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ristow
                              they are the same as ford small block. so look for ford small block 1.7. i have a set of comp cam knock offs here. i wonder if that guy in florida has any more of the good steel ones like i had....
                              And those will bolt to the late model heads without machining?
                              -Jonny B.
                              1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
                              7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
                              AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
                              NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
                              F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
                              R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker

                              1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
                              1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
                              1979 Wagoneer - Sold
                              1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed

                              Comment

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