U-Haul doesn't rate a 1979 Cherokee to tow a 2004 Grand Cherokee

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  • rmorit01
    350 Buick
    • Nov 13, 2004
    • 1001

    U-Haul doesn't rate a 1979 Cherokee to tow a 2004 Grand Cherokee

    Just spoke with a U-Haul representative and found out that there system doesn't allow a 1979 FULLSIZE Cherokee to tow a 2004 Grand Cherokee on an autotransport trailer.

    Identifies that the weight of the Cherokee is less than 3500lbs -- I am thinking there database is messed up and is using the small cherokee and not a full size.

    Hopefully a call from the rep straightens them out - has anyone run into the same problem?

    Bob
    79 Cherokee S
  • serehill
    Gone,Never Forgotten.
    • Nov 22, 2009
    • 8619

    #2
    LOL

    Isn't going to happen.

    80 Cherokee
    360 ci 727 with
    Comp cams 270 h
    NP208
    Edlebrock performer intake
    Holley 4180
    Msd total multi spark.
    4" rusty's springs
    Member, FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

    If you can't make it better why waste your time. No use repeating the orignal mistakes. I'm to old to push it that's why.

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    • babywag
      out of order
      • Jun 08, 2005
      • 10286

      #3
      Originally posted by rmorit01
      Just spoke with a U-Haul representative and found out that there system doesn't allow a 1979 FULLSIZE Cherokee to tow a 2004 Grand Cherokee on an autotransport trailer.

      Identifies that the weight of the Cherokee is less than 3500lbs -- I am thinking there database is messed up and is using the small cherokee and not a full size.

      Hopefully a call from the rep straightens them out - has anyone run into the same problem?

      Bob
      Been that way forever...
      Pretty sure towing a 3500lb vehicle + trailer far exceeds the GVWR of the Cherokee.
      This is why they won't do it.

      Lie to them and just do it, or borrow/use a better tow vehicle.
      I've towed vehicles with an SJ many times, it'll get the job done, but it sucks.
      Especially when people cut you off and slam on their brakes because you're going too slow.
      Tony
      88 GW, 67 J3000, 07 Magnum SRT8

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      • FSJunkie
        The Nigel Tufnel of the FSJ world.
        • Jan 09, 2011
        • 4040

        #4
        Better believe that Grand Cherokee weighs at least 4000 pounds. The ZJ's weighed that much, and I can only imagine the WJ being heavier.

        U-Haul car trailers are heavy and hard to tow because of their long tongue. At least they have inertia brakes.

        You'll easily have 6000 pounds back there. I only have access to 1973 specs, but a 360 4V Wagoneer with the automatic or 4 speed, an equalizer hitch, highest numerical axle ratio, and every heavy duty option in the book was rated at 6500 pounds maximum.

        It'll do it, but it won't like it one bit.
        '72 Jeep Wagoneer Custom, 360 V8

        I love how arguements end as soon as Ristow comments. Ristow is right...again.

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        • rmorit01
          350 Buick
          • Nov 13, 2004
          • 1001

          #5
          I guess that is the case -- they quoted out for me what the rental of one of their trucks and trailers is and to do a round trip -- I wouldn't save any money as compared to having a local towing service haul the vehicle the 180 miles I need it to go.
          79 Cherokee S

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          • aerocorey
            304 AMC
            • Oct 14, 2006
            • 2034

            #6
            Just tell 'em you're hauling a Honda Del Sol or something and do what you gotta do. Increase your following distance, keep it slow, and watch out for a--holes.
            Corey

            Current
            87 GW "Big Bear"
            76 J20 project "Ox"
            90 GW parts rig "Velma"
            77 J10 parts rig "NoMo" (as in "no more Jeeps, Corey!")
            94 YJ "Coop"

            Past
            88 GW "Hercules" (had to sell in '08, curious who has it now)
            83 Wag parts rig "Shaggy" (used to build Herc, then scrapped)
            73 J4000 (had to sell due to PCS in '07)
            75 Cherokee "Jerry Lee" (sold in '13 because I'm an idiot)
            74 Cherokee "Dino" (used to build Jerry Lee, then scrapped)

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            • #7
              Load up the 79 and run it over the scales and get a weight slip. You will probably be close to 5K with full tank and a bunch or stuff in it.....Show them the slip.
              Art
              ASE Master Collision Tech
              "Beast" - 81 "S" W/T, 85-360, T-18, Lock-rite,wag alloys, 31-10.50 Pro Comp MT's, Warn 8274 in a fabbed bumper/deer strainer(tested and approved)

              88 XJ, 3" lift, 31-10.50's, custom bumpers and winch/tow bar mounts, Warn 9500HS, custom sliders/steps, camo paint, & headliner

              Member: FSJ Prissy Restoration Assoc.

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              • CROCKETTBOONE
                350 Buick
                • Jan 14, 2005
                • 924

                #8
                Get a Premium membership in AAA. They will give you a tow of 200 miles in the first year. I used my membership to move my J10 this year.
                An opinion is just that, an opinion. A fact is a fact, and thought to be true. Please dont confuse an opinion with a fact. Life: Its sexually transmitted and always Fatal.

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                • jpcoutts
                  304 AMC
                  • Jun 28, 2002
                  • 2114

                  #9
                  I recently towed my J20 on Uhaul trailer with my GMC 2500 diesel and it was a heavy load. The tongue weight of the empty trailer was enough to compress the rear springs on my truck and the trailer alone felt heavy while towing on flat ground. Uhaul has three sizes of auto transport trailers and I was using the biggest. I was glad to be towing with the 2500. I'm not sure I would be comfortable towing that much of a load very far with A Cherokee. I wouldn't list any thing other than correct info for the tow vehicle and the load on the trailer, if there were to be a problem of some kind it would all be on you. I believe you ought to be able to find a hauler that would do the job for not much more, if any, than the cost of the trailer rental.
                  Jim C
                  '67 J3000 Dually
                  '86 J20
                  '79 CJ5(in pieces)
                  '86 CJ7 Doesn't need anything(so why do I have it?)
                  Correction- it just needed a water pump!

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                  • Jeepguy77
                    350 Buick
                    • Mar 16, 2008
                    • 1183

                    #10
                    I agree with jpcoutts, you want to be careful with telling them the wrong info. If something happens it opens a huge can of worms.
                    Pierce,
                    77 J10 454, TH400, D20,

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                    • mdill
                      Gone. Not Forgotten.
                      • Nov 22, 2000
                      • 7076

                      #11
                      So how many free 200 mile AAA tows can I get per day ? (I need 7 or 8 to get one I have an eye on home )

                      Originally posted by CROCKETTBOONE
                      Get a Premium membership in AAA. They will give you a tow of 200 miles in the first year. I used my membership to move my J10 this year.
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                      1977 J-10 Honcho 360-T15-D20
                      1977 Cherokee WT 360-Th400-NP241 true-trac(s)
                      1979 Cherokee 4 Door 258-T-18-D20
                      1981 Cherokee Chief WT 360-727-NP208
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                      • fulsizjeep
                        Señor Jackhead
                        • Aug 21, 2002
                        • 22496

                        #12
                        Done that, been there... with FSJs



                        It is slow going even with a 401 so take your time.



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                        Ran when parked.
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                        88 GW, 401/727/208, 5" lift, D44s/4.10s/locked up, 35s with a few Evil Twin & TT's Fabworks mods
                        76 401 Wag, 77 401 Wag, 77 401 J20
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                        • Gurinski
                          258 I6
                          • Mar 14, 2010
                          • 385

                          #13
                          can you use the 04 to tow the 79?
                          1991 GW TFI GM-icm 360 727 np229

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                          • Heavy_Metal_Thunder_81
                            Cherokee Outlaw
                            • Jan 10, 2006
                            • 7292

                            #14
                            Worked for Uhaul for 3 years, here's some inside info...

                            A 2004 WJ has an advertised curb weight of 3790-3880lbs depending on the engine you have. The Uhaul AT (Auto Transport) weights every bit of 2500 pounds itself. That's 6380lbs combined weight if you have the V8 WJ. Now, Uhaul's rule for towing is the advertised curb weight of the tow vehicle must meet or exceed 80% the combined weight of the trailer and cargo. Do the math. 80% of 6380 is 5104lbs. A 79 W/T Cherokee has a Curb weight of only 4515lbs. So, in short, you're not going to be able to rent a Uhaul AT for your purposes if they know what you're towing. I usually just tell them I'm towing a Tyota Corolla or somthing of similar size and do what I gotta do and be done with it. Just take it slow, these FSJs DO NOT like towing anything that is heavier than them with their short wheelbase.
                            -Jonny B.
                            1979 Cherokee Golden Eagle - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
                            7" Alcan springs, BJ's HD shackles - 35x12.5x15 BFG Mud Terrains
                            AMC 401 - Pro-Flo 4 EFI
                            NV4500/NWF BB/NP205 - Triple Stick'd
                            F D44 - 4.10, Eaton E-Locker
                            R M23 - 4.10, Detroit Locker

                            1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
                            1979 Cherokee Chief - Parts
                            1979 Wagoneer - Sold
                            1981 Cherokee Chief - Cubed

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                            • J20_505
                              232 I6
                              • Nov 02, 2012
                              • 29

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CROCKETTBOONE
                              Get a Premium membership in AAA. They will give you a tow of 200 miles in the first year. I used my membership to move my J10 this year.
                              I agree with CROCKETTBOONE I've used my AAA membership to tow 3 parts vehicles in the last year...first tow was 9 miles, last two were about 46 miles each. The $ you save on towing is worth the membership by itself. Just my $0.02
                              1975 J20 360/T18/D20
                              1975 Cherokee 360/T18/D20
                              1965 Ford Galaxie Custom 500 289/Cruise-O-Matic
                              1965 Ford Galaxie 500 XL parts car
                              2000 Ford F350 7.3L ZF6 4X4
                              2013 Ford Utility PI

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