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Old 08-25-2006, 09:55 AM
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destroyed an optima, bumped my head

Well I destroyed another Optima. Don't know how or why. It wasn't even three years old, so it was a free replacement. Went out to start the Wag at the store and nothing, barely a click. Started fine when left the house. Got it jumped and when I got home I put it on the charger and it wouldn't even fire up. Read zero on the charger guage. Volts were only 10.
Good thing it didn't go at Ouray, them Optimas are expensive in MontRose.
Guy at the battery store says it happens once in a while. Should have bought a lottery ticket that day.

Also bumped my head for the first time on the hood latch. Never did that before. Always wondered how people did that. I was crawling into the engine bay installing my new Edelbrock EPS manifild and Truck Avenger (wooo whoooo). Left a good cut too. It hurt. Almost dropped the carb when it happened, but managed to put it down before I started swearing.
Now I just need the new radiator and water pump and steering box and I'll be ready to wheel again.
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Old 08-25-2006, 10:01 AM
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Also bumped my head for the first time on the hood latch. Never did that before.
You are truly a FSJ owner now! I keep a sliced tennis ball that I put over the latch to prevent that from happening (again).
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Old 08-25-2006, 10:07 AM
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I've had an Optima crap out on me in that same manner. FWIW, I've found it nearly impossible to recharge an Optima.

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Old 08-25-2006, 10:15 AM
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FWIW, I've found it nearly impossible to recharge an Optima

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Here is the Optima charging procedure recommended by this site (who has a 100 amp charger??):
http://www.batteriesareus.com/index....ges&pages_id=2

1) Charge the battery A MINIMUM OF 100 amps for 15 mins ( @ 14.5+ volts)
a) Let battery and charger cool for 15 mins
2) Repeat step one at least four times - after letting battery cool 15 mins after each charge
3) Charge at 2-10 amps (trickle / automatic) for 24 hours minimum
4) Test the battery
5) D31 batteries: repeat each step again

That is the primary reason I do not use Optimas. Instead, I use Odyssey batteries. I have completely discharged mine about 6 times (left key switch on). A 15 amp charge easily brought it back to life. BTW, my friend with a repair shop never uses Optimas.

http://www.batterymart.com/c-odyssey.html

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Old 08-25-2006, 10:26 AM
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Just my two cents but Optima's IMO are the most over rated battery out there. Ran duals in my CJ at $135 a pop. Worked well and lasted 4 years or so. Good battery...yes...worth twice the price of a reg battery? No.
Other than being able to run upside down I guess w/o leaking they didn't do anything for me that a quality conventional $75 battery(and w/higher CCA's too) couldn't have done...<shrug>.

Oh...the cut tennis ball sounds like a good idea. If I'm going to under there for awhile I tie/dangle a shop rag around the d*mn latch so at least I see it.
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Old 08-25-2006, 10:32 AM
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I use Odyssey batteries.

http://www.batterymart.com/c-odyssey.html

-John

hm..."explosion proof"

sounds like a good battery
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Old 08-25-2006, 10:37 AM
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I'd have to agree with Joe. I've had at least 3 red tops that I can remember and can't claim to have seen any markedly improved performance over the cheaper batteries. It should have told me something after that first one crapped out. I took that as luck of the draw and the dealer gladly gave me a new one.
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Old 08-25-2006, 10:57 AM
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Optima's are a love hate for me. I had some of the original ones and they lasted darn near forever. Then the quality went to crap and I stopped buying them. I am back to optima's and the one in my jeep (yellow top) and the other one in my jeep (red top) seem to be working great.
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:34 AM
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Yup, my first optima lasted 6 years. I figured this one was just a luck of the draw, but after these srories......??

I like them becuase they don't crap out as bad here in the heat and can withstand more bouncing than a coventional. Add the jarring with the heat here and a regular battery is good for 2 years, then you worry.
I also like them as yuo can crank a long time on them and they don't wear down as fast.
I don't like the price and I don't like the fact that they die without warning. I'll take a look at the the Odyssey.

Don't think I'll go to too much trouble over the hood latch. After 17 years of Wags that's the first time. Now I sure it'll happen ever and over.

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Old 08-25-2006, 11:59 AM
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Optimas are great for what they are (dry), but they should only be used when you really need to worry about spillage. Racers use them for safety reasons. Unless you're offroading ALOT and plan on rolling your Jeep, I wouldn't bother. Too much expense for no good reason. I use those "Everlast" things from Wal Mart. Their top line battery is about $60, has 850 CCA, and they have a 3 year free replacement warranty.
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Old 08-25-2006, 12:55 PM
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This thread is pretty funny, only for what I expected of it. I read the topic and thought you had crushed a Kia Optima, and got a bump from the steering wheel or something. Then when I read that you'd done it before, I was really interested. I tell ya, I'm disappointed, but thankfully no one has been seriously injured.

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Old 08-25-2006, 01:40 PM
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hm..."explosion proof"

sounds like a good battery

Besides the Jeep, there is one in the backup diesel generator, and a little one in the 13' Whaler. They will hold their charge for 2 years.

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Old 08-25-2006, 03:22 PM
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That is funny. I didn't know there was a Kia Optima. Now that I do, would make an interesting thread.

I started using Optimas bacause they can withstand vibrations and heat better the a lead acid. And I got tired of running to the store to replace the battery when it went bad every two years. Whenever it got close to the two years I began to worry when it was going to go out on me out on a trail or in BF someplace. It also has to do with what type of offroading you do, and the distances, not just how much.
Granted, if you don't go off road much, or for short distances, they may be a waste. UP until now I didn't worry about the battery dying, now it will make me wonder. Now I may take two along when by myself.
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Old 08-25-2006, 03:33 PM
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This thread is pretty funny, only for what I expected of it. I read the topic and thought you had crushed a Kia Optima, and got a bump from the steering wheel or something. Then when I read that you'd done it before, I was really interested. I tell ya, I'm disappointed, but thankfully no one has been seriously injured.

Alex

hmm yes i thought the same thing lol
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:39 PM
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Just had the same thing on my parts wag... went to move it and... ded battery! wouldn't take a charge. I bought it in Jan for the Little Red Wagon, but swapped it out to move the parts jeep around, The Zone replaced it but I think it has to do with the power drain on these things when their off? I know Jeep had a fix for that and the LRW has had it done but haven't been able to find much else on it?
On a lighter note did you get flooded out there in QC with the rain's we've been havin?
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:56 PM
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Yep. Got over 2 inches in 1/2 hour yesterday. Lost power for 6 hours. Had to go home from work early to dig trenches. My road (dirt) is really tore up from that much rain that fast. Has some major streams cut into it as well as wash out holes.
Been having some good rain for a change. Haven't had decent rains out here for 4 years. Didn't need it all at once though.
I wish my off road wag was up to it I'd be hitting the desert waterfalls and wheelin' around at night in the rain.
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Old 08-26-2006, 02:20 AM
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I have found my red top optima lasts alot longer that regular batteries when it dies and you recharge it over and over. Regular batteries would not recharge after a while, whereas the optima keeps taking a charge once it goes dead. I have a small drain, and I also only drive it like once every 2 weeks. Been unhooking it recently though, everytime I get out for 24hrs or more. Have charged mine back up at least 3 times the past 6 months with no problems, with my old sears battery charger.
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Old 08-26-2006, 03:04 AM
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I've been using WalMart batteries. I heard they actually got very high ratings when compared to the big batt companies. I have them in my bass boat and in my other vehicles. If you kill one in the first year or so you can just take it into any Walmart and get fixed up. My boat trolling motor batteries are both large Walmart batts. I abuse them a lot and they are great. I've been using them in my project vehicles when I want to drive them around. One of my boat batts is in the J10 now.
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Old 08-26-2006, 09:20 PM
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I've had an Optima crap out on me in that same manner. FWIW, I've found it nearly impossible to recharge an Optima.

J4G: Nice idea

I've charged a couple of them with my motorcycle battery charger. Takes about 3 days, but it works fine. It's the trickle effect that Optima's respond to best.
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Old 08-27-2006, 11:30 AM
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-----Here is the Optima charging procedure recommended by this site (who has a 100 amp charger??):
http://www.batteriesareus.com/index....ges&pages_id=2-----


my charger has settings up to 175 amps and from 6-24v.... I have always been able to bring my optimas back... even if they have been dead for more than a year... we have red tops in everything around here... no good reason, dad just likes the color i guess... although blue is his favorite color... I think its the macho feeling he gets from using something expensive...
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