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Old 04-30-2007, 05:20 PM
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Moab FSJ's 2008!

It isn't too soon to start discussion on the next round of Moab FSJ Boobie Safari 2008 action is it?

I talked with Michael, Flint and Ryan yesterday and here were the points discussed:

1) Poison Spider, Golden Spike, Moab rim will not be attempted next year unless:
A) We PLAN on doing it over the course of two days.
B) The FSJ buggy types want to do it anyways.
C) One or two rigs with winches attend.
D) We leave the trailhead at 8:00am NO MATTER WHAT
Reason being... with my cooling/charging/brake line problems, Dustin's pinion angle and tranny linkage problems and Michel's broken spring/brake line, the trail takes a real toll on 30 year old iron. That was just this year... I can't even comment on past years carnage on that trail. That and it is just such a long trail to crawl the entire length it doesn't make sense to push our luck trying to do it in a day. We found ourselves almost racing to make the golden crack before nightfall. Even though we passed the crack before nightfall, we still didn't get off the trail until 3am. The obstacles keep getting harder and harder after that too. I can still hear Scott in the back of my mind repeating "there is just one more obstacle... there is just one more obstacle... there is just one more obstacle." Another consideration is that there are just so many more trails in Moab to explore it doesn't make sense to re-do this particular trail every year. I keep going over this in my mind and I keep thinking it would be a real travesty if we didn't learn from our previous experiences on this trail and pro-actively change our approach.

2) Moving the date of the FSJ Boobie Safari to the week before or the week after Easter Jeep Safari.

This would give the opportunity for people attending Easter Jeep to go early or stay late to hang out with the FSJ crowd while still avoiding the bumper to bumper trail rides and 2 hour waits for tables in town.

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Old 04-30-2007, 11:47 PM
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i dont know if ill be able to make it but if i do i want to run hells revenge on the first day.
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:55 AM
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The most amazing is that no rigg was left on the trail....

I remember that for Ouray in 2002, i replaced any common parts older than 4yrs.... water pump, starter, hoses, belts.... forgot about the alternator.... which gave up the ghost 10 years later.... this April.....

Got s^%$ up by the QT vacuum actuator.... which was the OE part....

The overheating seems to be common..... I swapped an HEI saturday pm, and it is running a lot warmer.... the exhaust is hot.... the temp a tad over the usual.... but sparks are tan/brown..... so back to solving a problem.

Electrical can be the major draw back.... this is why i will keep a spare point distributor w a mounted coil.... and carry an inductive timing light.... I got TDC, but the degrees are tricky, wo tools
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Old 05-01-2007, 05:45 AM
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2) Moving the date of the FSJ Boobie Safari to the week before or the week after Easter Jeep Safari.

This would give the opportunity for people attending Easter Jeep to go early or stay late to hang out with the FSJ crowd while still avoiding the bumper to bumper trail rides and 2 hour waits for tables in town.

I would be worried about all the other people from the Easter Jeep that come early or stay late, it was hard for us to find a hotel or camp ground, we were lucky to find the last camp ground available once and the last hotel room once, you know the one that they said smelled like smoke enough that they gave us a discount on it before we even saw it.

Everything got a little more expensive on the weekend when we were there, I would be afraid to see the prices they ask around Easter Jeep time on the weekends.
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:00 AM
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I would be worried about all the other people from the Easter Jeep that come early or stay late, it was hard for us to find a hotel or camp ground, we were lucky to find the last camp ground available once and the last hotel room once, you know the one that they said smelled like smoke enough that they gave us a discount on it before we even saw it.

Everything got a little more expensive on the weekend when we were there, I would be afraid to see the prices they ask around Easter Jeep time on the weekends.

I know what you are saying but you still don't even have to be there the last weekend of EJS. You could show up tuesday or wednesday and still have a bang up time. Everything that I have heard is that the majority of rigs on the trails the week after EJS are picking up trash.
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:08 AM
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Hey Michel, I send you a PM. Have a quick question for you.

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Old 05-02-2007, 08:11 PM
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Hey Michel, I send you a PM. Have a quick question for you.

Thanks

Got it, right?

the throttle stop solenoid for the HEI (+) wire
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Old 05-02-2007, 08:15 PM
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I know what you are saying but you still don't even have to be there the last weekend of EJS. You could show up tuesday or wednesday and still have a bang up time.

I can give you prices..... during the week, it is about $55ish, but when the hotel managers start to know that things fill up... the prices go to the $100.

I booked my room the day before arriving... for 4 days.... when i arrived, they did not have vacancies... and the manager told me: " you are lucky, the current prices in town are $100ish, if you can find a room"
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Old 05-03-2007, 02:29 AM
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I will still camp though.
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:48 AM
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News Flash:
http://www.4x4training.com/EasterSaf...ssRelease.html

Wonder if Tom would take all us first timers for a leisurely ride on Poison Spider, Gold Spike, Gold Bar Rim next year?

So, I think if we are considering a date in relation to week before, week after EJS 2008 for the FSJ Moab Invasion , we should consider the weather and the other events that maybe in the same time frame.

Some planning for EJS 2008:
http://www.moab4x4parts.com/moab_jee...b4 92fb6b97b2

The EJS event will be held March 15 - 23, 2008. The Vendor Expo Trade Show is the later part of the week on Thursday & Friday (March 21 & 22). The expo is pretty cool. The big parade of rigs downtown Moab is Saturday the 22nd. For those who might be inclined to catch some EJS and a FSJ Moab Invasion would probably benefit best by doing our Invasion the following week.

March in Moab can be way different that April. uh-huh I do know 2 places south of town about 12 miles for those who might be inclined to rough it on BLM land.

Then we have the big car show in Moab but it is not scheduled yet. Looks like they are shooting for April so we won't have that traffic to deal with.
http://www.discovermoab.com/calendar.htm

Food for Thought...

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Old 07-05-2007, 12:49 AM
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well, i might be going to moab next year for ejs. it looks like a good time, watch all the drunk asses, just like glamis. we should have one year when we all criuse out for ejs. after that we can make it before or after if you want. i just want to go to ejs once and see how it is.
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Old 07-06-2007, 04:24 PM
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I'll go whenever, but I am NOT bringing the blue cherk again...It's too pretty for Moab :P

I have a trail cherk of the same year under rehab that should be done by then. I'll happily point it at anything.

I say we all (or those without wives/or willing wives) agree to camp out so everyone can bring an 'amenity' and make the campsite cool. Really all you get with a $100 room is a shower, and showers to rinse off the dust can be rigged up. I have a 55 gallon water drum, if someone wants to rig up a shower head
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Old 07-06-2007, 07:38 PM
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That there is gonna be some cold shower from a 55 gal drum in March...
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Old 07-06-2007, 09:11 PM
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ya but for $50 a night its worth it.

im gettin some round d-shafts so i should be able to drive to some of the trails next year. will make it a bit easier to get there and back.
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Old 07-07-2007, 03:30 PM
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That there is gonna be some cold shower from a 55 gal drum in March...

hmm true. Showers are civilized folks anyhow
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What equipment/accessories/modifications would you recommend as "Absolutely Necessary" for wheeling the trails in Moab? My '73 j2000 will have a 4" Hell Creek spring lift and SS Trxus tires in 33's very soon, and if I can score a nice F bumper cheap I plan on installing a 10K lb. winch, and I already have a Hi-Lift jack. I've never been there but would love to go. I'd like my truck to be prepared and have some time now and a little $$ to get it ready. Thanks.
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:23 PM
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What equipment/accessories/modifications would you recommend as "Absolutely Necessary" for wheeling the trails in Moab? My '73 j2000 will have a 4" Hell Creek spring lift and SS Trxus tires in 33's very soon, and if I can score a nice F bumper cheap I plan on installing a 10K lb. winch, and I already have a Hi-Lift jack. I've never been there but would love to go. I'd like my truck to be prepared and have some time now and a little $$ to get it ready. Thanks.

Spare alternator, spare battery, spare u-joints, spare starter, spare driveshafts, spare leaf packs (if they are an option) and a full assortment of tools.

Moab REALLY takes a toll on old iron. Best thing you can do is make sure all systems are in TIP TOP shape. Moab has a way of exploiting any weakness that your truck might have. I had cooling and charging issues last year in addition to broken motor mounts and a brake line, Michelle had a broken spring, Dustin had a faulty spring perch and a broken u-joint.
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:32 PM
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I'm up for week after... that worked out fine before --- but we need to make sure of any standing events like the hot rod show. Might dodge those as easter falls on different date each year.

I surely hope my rig will be ready for the trails by then. Actually I am kind of hoping it'll be ready by end of July...

Anyhoo... keep us posted... and color me there barring unforseen circumstnaces.
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Could always camp at Ken's Lake and shower in the waterfall. That's enough to bust through any hangover in the morning!

And it's close to Steelbender....
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New issue of Fourwheeler mag has Moab writeups. We need to do Kanes Creek. Over 70 water crossings!!!
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