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Old 09-03-2017, 10:23 AM
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Removal of Fuel Filler Tube Bezel ?

I am going to restore my '85 Wagoneer with original Dinoc 3M woodgrain. Will see if it still sticks. There is a production label from 1999 or like that on it.

I already removed the moldings which was very easy, took 15 minutes. I used a very simple "tool": kite-string
soft enough to make no scratches, thin and stabil enough to cut the old 3M tape as if it was like butter.

2 questions:

1.
I need to remove the "Fuel Filler Tube Bezel" now.
The metal part inside has no screws anymore (I expected to find 6 screws but probably removed in earlier years). the metal part is absolutely firm/fixed and does not dangle/wobble at all. Has anyone an idea how to try?
Or are the parts here in wrong order? Should the so called "TUBE, Air Filler" be behind the "Tube Bezel"?


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2.
While it was very easy to remove the moldings it is more painful to clean them from the old 3M tape. I use different kind of putty knifes.
Has anyone also used some fluids (practical experience) to support this procedure and like to recommend this? I might use this for the car panels too...


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best regards
Gunnar

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Old 09-03-2017, 11:08 AM
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Goo-gone removes most adhesives. Then rubbing alcohol to remove Goo-gone.

I use strong fishing line to remove any emblems with 3M and heat gun or blow dryer.

Heat with a lot of patience to peel off vinyl stripes.
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Old 09-06-2017, 07:21 PM
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shagwagon is right

use rubbing alcohol ( isopropyl ) after you

have removed adhesive

and,...if "goo-gone" or "goof-off" is not available where you are,

3M makes "adhesive remover"
comes in large tin container, will not harm paint.

good luck !
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Old 09-08-2017, 08:12 PM
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Goof off is stronger. More used for vandalism removal. I wouldn't use that it's too harsh.
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Old 09-09-2017, 02:43 PM
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...it works

yes, it works very good...

thanks
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Old 09-12-2017, 01:30 PM
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any idea regarding fuel filler tube bezel?l

am I am still wondering if the parts on my Waggy are mounted in wrong order?

it looks that the rubber-made bezel is inside and the steel-made fuel filler outside (visible) [see first picture]
but looking in the the parts-catalogue document I suggest, first comes the steel-made part and at least the rubber-made bezel... [next picture]

so if mounted in correct order I shouldn't see almost no steel-part anymore (and not as it looks on my Waggy's fuel tank opening right now).


I already tried to pull both parts out, but the steel-part does not move a single milimeter ....no screws in anymore ........ maybe with a little more power? ... but I am not sure if I would tear down other parts

I looked into Hayne's manual but found no description for that

If you have any suggestions I would like to follow them...


have a nice week
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:13 AM
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Your pics don't show...

There are rivets holding the steel cup to quarter panel.
IIRC they must be removed to allow complete removal of the filler tube assembly from quarter panel.
You can grind them off from backside inside/behind cargo panel.
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Old 09-17-2017, 01:49 PM
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rivets

thanks,
have seen the rivets now when removed the rear-panel in the trunk.

it looks that it will be will removed then out of the fender
before I obviously have to detach the rubber- hoses from the metall filler tubes....
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Old 09-17-2017, 04:13 PM
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I looked into this and it appears that you have to remove the two lower hoses from the bottom of the rear quarter panel underneath the jeep.

I have a brand new bezel to install but it appears that it's not going to be that easy LOL. As to just unscrew the 6 or so screws.

The metal that you're looking at with the screw holes is attached to the fuel filler itself it's one piece.

In the picture #5. is all one piece. #4 is just a rubber gasket that may or may not be there for my experience.
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Old 09-20-2017, 02:04 AM
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fuel filler tube removal

thanks Frank,

yes I have seen the rubber hoses on the inner fender side and the smaller metal plate (where the hoses are going through) that is mounted on the inner fender side, too.

And from inside the trunk, behind the cargo panel, I have seen now also the rivets which holds the one-metal-filler-part (#4 on picture).


OK, so I know now HOW to do and will consider the next days IF I like do that.


(I already have a new bezel and a new bezel gasket. And I should change also the rubber hoses too at this opportunity)


Thanks for your help guys
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