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  • Lambrewski
    350 Buick
    • Jun 05, 2003
    • 919

    Frank in Norway - Caster Comment

    Frank - you made a comment about caster being more important than pinion angle........I had to shim the front 3 degrees to get zero front pinion angle (CV at the other end of shaft)......what effects would there be by having the caster off by that setup?

    Thanks
    '78 Chief S W/T 360cid +.030 & RV cam, AGR steering gear, '80's Astro Van hydroboost, '84 GW steering pump, Edel elec fuel pump, TFI, MSD 6A, MSD eCore 48Kv coil, 8.5mm Spiral, TH400 w/ TCI +2qt pan & shift kit, BW1339, open D44's w/ 3.54's, EDL1406 w/ off-road, 4" spring lift, Rancho, 15x10 MT Classic Locks w/ 33x12.5 Toyo OpenCountry M/T
  • Frank in Norway
    327 Rambler
    • Jun 28, 2000
    • 556

    #2
    Caster is a directional control angle that keeps the front tires turned straight and self-center the steering after cornering.

    Too much caster will result in a car that is hard to steer, but keep in line well. Also too much have been said to introduce death wobble.

    Too little caster will give you a vehichle that wanders and don't do much self-centering. It will feel very unstable.
    This is what happens when you shim the axle for zero pinion angle.

    So, when I said that caster beeing more important thatn pinion angle this is because it's better to have a car that's safe at speed than long ujoint life.
    Frank in Norway
    http://www.fullsizejeep.com
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    '77 Wagoneer (360/TH400/QT, D60's, ARB's, 39,5's, Coil-spring)

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    • imported_Big Red
      304 AMC
      • Dec 28, 2001
      • 1568

      #3
      frank, after my spring over, we changed the angle of the pinion (of course) but my jeep feels as if it likes to wonder. What do I need to do to help correct it? Thanks!
      1979 Cherokee WT, 360 4 barrel T18, Dana 20 twin-stick, SOA with a RB Shackle Flip, 4.27s, Hydroboost brakes, TFI upgrade, J-10 Rear axle w/rear Caddy disc brakes and 37" MTRs

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      • FSJ Thing
        Propane Protagonist
        • Aug 25, 2002
        • 3824

        #4
        Alot of big words in this thread. I made a bad drawing to try and help explain:



        When you rotate the axle to correct pinion angle, you're rotating the whole axle. This rotates your steering knuckles and effects your steering. 3 degrees isn't that big of a deal, but if you're noticing it and feel uncomfortable with it, the only fix is to cut off the knuckles and reweld them to the axle tubes at the correct angle.
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        Bring back Junk Yard Genius! he may have peed in some of your cornflakes, but everything he told me was helpful!

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        • Frank in Norway
          327 Rambler
          • Jun 28, 2000
          • 556

          #5
          Just as Matt says, the only way to correct it is to do a "cut'n'turn".

          But, remember that the pinion angle was not optimal when the Jeep came of the factory. In my point of view it's more important with a correct caster than pinion angle.
          This is because a vehichle that doesn't handle good is unsafe on the street. A pinion angle out of alignement only gives slight vibration and more frequently u-joint change.
          So if a cut'n'turn is out of the question, rotate the axle for correct caster.

          And a picture says more than a 1000 big words )
          Frank in Norway
          http://www.fullsizejeep.com
          [email protected]
          '77 Wagoneer (360/TH400/QT, D60's, ARB's, 39,5's, Coil-spring)

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