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Old 10-17-2007, 10:26 AM
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Twin stick shifter for 229???

Anyone out there ever fab one or is there one avalable the the FSJ t-cases? I'm looking for one I can use in an Eagle with an 86 228 t-case I swaped in. Needs to work with a t-5 tranny. Photos of any custom fabed shifters would be great too. Looking to get rid of teh vacume 2/4 dash shifter. I have the hi/low shifter from the 86 but would like to see if I can get a twin stick to work first...
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:27 AM
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Well since the 229 uses a Viscous clutch and the 228 has some sort of differential, there's really no direct drive to the front wheels unless your in 4lo. So you really can't run just the front wheels independently of the rear. I think you'd be wasting your time, you'd be better off using a different T-case for a twin stick conversion.

Or do you mean simply that you want to get rid of the vacuum switch and have a leaver for 2wd-4wd?
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:43 AM
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Or do you mean simply that you want to get rid of the vacuum switch and have a leaver for 2wd-4wd?
Thats basicly it. I'm actually using a 228 with open internal diff non VC. The car has lockers front and rear and I drive on snow and ice alot up here so the t-case diff in the 228 will work great with that. The front axle has no disconect so it's full time anyway. I want to be able to shift in and out of 4wd on the fly with a lever when I'm in and out of ice around town. When I hit the trail I'll use the other lever in low range to lock the t-case.
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You now can shift on the fly between 2H/4H with the dash vacuum switch on an 86. Only years you couldn't do that was in 83-84 that required you to be stopped so the front vacuum axle could engage first. You don't have a front vac axle.
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It would probably be easier to rig up a cable control for 2hi/4hi shifting than to try and stick another shift lever and linkage in there. If you have the vaco front axle, there are fairly easy ways to lock that sucker.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:16 PM
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You now can shift on the fly between 2H/4H with the dash vacuum switch on an 86. Only years you couldn't do that was in 83-84 that required you to be stopped so the front vacuum axle could engage first. You don't have a front vac axle.
Thats right. My Eagle is an 83 with an 80 Fulltime front axle. The vac system is gone and with the cold temps here in Alaska I don't want to use it and have the lines crack in sub zero temps. So rather then replace the vac system and install the under seat shifter I though I'd look into building a twin stick to run the t-case. I'm thinking a twin stick from a T-5 dana 300 CJ might be close. Just wondering if anyone else has tryed that on a 229 or 228 T-case.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:19 PM
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It would probably be easier to rig up a cable control for 2hi/4hi shifting that to try and stick another shift lever and linkage in there. If you have the vaco front axle, there are fairly easy ways to lock that sucker.
Thought about that to but I've had them freeze up here after summer wheeling gets water in the cable and winter temps hit. I'm in the Fairbanks area and expect to see -25 alot... We hit -62 for 3 days two years ago...
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I know this is an old thread but I thought someone here might want to try this on a 229 in a Grand. Worked great in my Eagle. I modified a twin stick shifter for a Jeep dana 20. Used teh vacume moters mounting brackets to mount it and cut the remounted the handles to fit. Left handle is 2 to 4 and right is high to low.

Not a true twin stick by teh Jeep defination but works so much better then that vacume crap and looks great to... Oh and I'm now running a 229. Had the 228 in for a bit and had to kick it to the curb...

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That is very cool!
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Do you have more pics of the work you did to install the shifters? I'm thinking that this might be a good write up for the archives...

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Do you have more pics of the work you did to install the shifters? I'm thinking that this might be a good write up for the archives...

I did one over on teh Eagles nest forum. Here's the link if anyone wants to have a look. Lots of info and photos. Should work with any tranny as teh mount I addapted was 229 specific.

http://forums.amceaglenest.com/index.php?topic=12861.0
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This is exactly what I have been looking for! awesome!
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I coudlnt PM but thanks for the pics!! This would be easier than swapping out Tcases and front axles. Did you add locking hubs in the front on the IFS of the eagle or is it still a flange? Is there any binding?
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Is there a link still available to the pictures of this mod? The links above no longer have photos.

I am not sure how I missed this thread. Granted, I was in Iraq, but still..
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Craig your crap has been moved around!!!!!!!!!! Send me a pic of it and I'm now thinking I could've used those flat tops now.
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Yes, please fix the pics. I would like to see this also...

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Yes...I would also be interested in the pics...
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Here are the pics, I saved them.






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