Just wondering if there is a 4bbl GM tbi? I've got a stock 4bbl manifold that I'm going to put on my offroad Wag & the plan is to put a junkyard tbi on it. Is there a 4bbl tbi version that will take better advantage of the manifold? All of the tbi pics I've seen only have two injectors that I noticed.
4BBL Junkyard TBI?
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4BBL Junkyard TBI?
Mike
78 WT Cherokee Chief Levis Edition, Rebuilt 401, DUI, Hickey Winch, Headman Headers, Dual 2 1/2" Exhaust.
88 Grand Wagoneer - SOA, D44HD & D60, 203-205 Doubler, Rear Disk Brakes, 36" H1 Double Beadlocks
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to answer the question, a 4 bl tbi came on the chevy 454. the only problem with that is finding that set up. they are somewhat rare. but, you never know what you may find in a junkyard.
also, like steve said, it would be too much for a 360. and probably too much for my 401. but, should one fall in my lap, i may try it out.www.j10mike.com
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Depending on the version of GM's TBI unit that you get, the two barrels are the equivalent of 580-750cfm carbs.
The two-barrel Holley TBIs are typically rated at 670cfm.Last edited by Spectre; 06-08-2006, 07:48 PM."Battlewagon": 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (w/ Tow Pack) - Urban Assault Wagon under construction - TFI, TBI, CS144, Aftermarket Sanden, Explorer Power Seats, 4" Lift, 16" AHI wheels and much much more; click here for a full list of modifications and gear, links to writeups/posts and more info.
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I've never seen a stock factory 4bbl TBI setup on any 454.
The TBI setup I got from a 454 uses a 750cfm 2bbl throttle body. It's a lot like the ones off the 4.3/5.0/5.7 but with bigger throttle bores and bigger injectors.Try out my gear ratio calculator
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Derf,
I'm not an engine guru. So, I won't dispute your comment. However, another local FSJ guy in my area was surprised to find a 4 B throttle body on a 454. He too thought that the 454 TBI was a 2 B as well until he saw it with his own eyes.
Is there a chance that he saw an aftermarket 4 Barrel throttle body set up for the 454? I haven't looked for it on the web. But, I will...Now, I'm curious.www.j10mike.com
Former - 1982 J10 Sportside, 360, TFI, 727/208, J20 axles, D44HD/Detroit TruTrac, D60/Detroit Locker, D60 disk brake conversion, 4.10s, 5 inch Superlift, 35x12.5x16.5 BFGs on AR767 Wheels. Procomp Super Seats. MileMarker 9000 on Cliffhanger front bumper. Dozer II rear bumper. Rhino Grill conversion. NP208 floor shifter conversion.
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Holley makes at least two aftermarket 4bbl TBI systems - the Pro-Jection 4 series, and the Commander 950. They also, I believe, offer 4bbl TBI units as an upgrade for stock GM units."Battlewagon": 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer (w/ Tow Pack) - Urban Assault Wagon under construction - TFI, TBI, CS144, Aftermarket Sanden, Explorer Power Seats, 4" Lift, 16" AHI wheels and much much more; click here for a full list of modifications and gear, links to writeups/posts and more info.
Daily Driver: Modified 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Vanden Plas.
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Thanks for all the info guys!!! I don't know much about these kinds of things & I just figured that a 4bbl tbi would work better on a 4bbl manifold. I'll just stick with the 2bbl tbi & adapt it to the 4bbl manifold then.Mike
78 WT Cherokee Chief Levis Edition, Rebuilt 401, DUI, Hickey Winch, Headman Headers, Dual 2 1/2" Exhaust.
88 Grand Wagoneer - SOA, D44HD & D60, 203-205 Doubler, Rear Disk Brakes, 36" H1 Double Beadlocks
02 VW Jetta TDI - DD
82 Mercedes 300TD
1953 Dodge B4-F 1 1/2 ton stake bed - Restoration Project
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I'm not sure that it matters whether it's 2 or 4 barrel for an injection system. The 4Vs (with secondaries) are used to keep the air velocity up at low speed on a big engine where the venturi size is large. You need the velocity to give a usable vacuum signal for vacuum-driven systems of a carburetor.
FI uses more than the vacuum signal to control the mixture and atomization, so there may be no need to split the low-speed and high-speed operation between primaries and secondaries. A bigger 2V may be fine for larger displacements.Tim Reese
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Originally posted by J10MikeDerf,
I'm not an engine guru. So, I won't dispute your comment. However, another local FSJ guy in my area was surprised to find a 4 B throttle body on a 454. He too thought that the 454 TBI was a 2 B as well until he saw it with his own eyes.
Is there a chance that he saw an aftermarket 4 Barrel throttle body set up for the 454? I haven't looked for it on the web. But, I will...Now, I'm curious.
I have seen the Holley Commander 950 4bbl system.Try out my gear ratio calculator
My Jeeps: Truck Norris and Grimm Jeeper
Truck Norris doesn't need a brow. He has fists.
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