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  • nograin
    304 AMC
    • Dec 19, 2000
    • 2286

    Headlight Relay Harness/Kit

    What's the status on these?
    Is Rick's son going to be making them?

    Would it be helpful if I posted the dimensions and so forth so people can make there own?

    There's a fellow who makes similar ones for Mopars, and he'ld be willing to make them for FSJs if people want.
    '85 Grand Wagoneer
    360 727auto, NP229
    body by beer (PO)
    carries wood inside
    no "wood" outside
    My other car is a fish
  • 8man
    304 AMC
    • Jan 04, 2011
    • 1561

    #2
    I have talked to Todd Hill, Rick's son, and he will not be making them.

    So if you want to make them, or send out the dimensions for construction of our own, feel free.

    Todd had one request, that we continue calling them the Serehill headlight harness.

    Thanks.
    79 Cherokee S (current project)
    82 Cherokee (parts for the 79)

    Member FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

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    • SOLSAKS
      304 AMC
      • Jul 25, 2016
      • 1781

      #3
      Sounds good no grain
      let us know details and contact info.

      dave in NC
      SOLSAKS - dave
      1976 J-10 HONCHO Fleetside
      1982 J-10 Fleetside
      1988 grand wagoneer
      2004 RUBICON jeep
      Benson, NC

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      • ZackN920
        350 Buick
        • Nov 18, 2015
        • 944

        #4
        I would love to see how one of Serehill's kits were set up. I thought I read that you don't chop up any wiring with his kit.

        I was thinking a little while back about doing it myself with one of my vehicles, but I would end up chopping my wires up. I have no clue where i'd get any sockets to match up and use for this little project.
        1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer-"Big Jeep"

        AMC 360, TF727, NP229, 2.72 gears, 2" lift
        Rancho 44044 springs, Rusty's 2" AAL, TFI w/ MSD C/R
        ...in pieces for more rust repair...

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        • 8man
          304 AMC
          • Jan 04, 2011
          • 1561

          #5
          He got most of the parts from Del City. There was no chopping up.
          The relays were mounted on a plate. There is a hot wire to the battery to the relays that goes out to the lights and a separatte wire that goes to the light switch. Plug in the light switch hook up the battery lead and plug in the lights.

          Some of the people on here have a diagram that would be helpful.
          79 Cherokee S (current project)
          82 Cherokee (parts for the 79)

          Member FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

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          • JeepJeepster
            350 Buick
            • Sep 04, 2014
            • 835

            #6
            Originally posted by 8man
            He got most of the parts from Del City. There was no chopping up.
            The relays were mounted on a plate. There is a hot wire to the battery to the relays that goes out to the lights and a separatte wire that goes to the light switch. Plug in the light switch hook up the battery lead and plug in the lights.

            Some of the people on here have a diagram that would be helpful.
            Shouldn't be a wire going to the switch. The serehill harness plugged into the old plug which then operated the relays. Should just need a ground and a positive hot wire ran to the battery.
            2004 Jeep Liberty
            1998 Jeep ZJ 5.9
            1994 Jeep ZJ I6
            1989 Jeep Grand Wagoneer 360

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            • 8man
              304 AMC
              • Jan 04, 2011
              • 1561

              #7
              You are correct, the wire that runs from the switch to the headlights was tied in to the kit so it activated the relays.
              79 Cherokee S (current project)
              82 Cherokee (parts for the 79)

              Member FSJ Prissy Restoration Association

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              • timwiller
                232 I6
                • May 15, 2014
                • 90

                #8
                relay hookup

                my 2c...i used the dimmer switch leads, low and high as the relays triggers. the relays only draw about 1/2 milliamp. get the plugin harness for the relays too. putting a bunch of spade connectors on them is just wrong. 10 or 12 ga power from starter relay/solenoid to the relay harness input. connect the output to the headlight plug harness. that's the whole thing basically. too many cooks. easy peasy.
                Last edited by timwiller; 02-13-2018, 06:00 PM.
                1966 J-3600 Gladiator, 304 AMC, T-18/D-20 twin stick, D44/D53, custom mandrel bent magniflow exhaust

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                • nograin
                  304 AMC
                  • Dec 19, 2000
                  • 2286

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ZackN920
                  I would love to see how one of Serehill's kits were set up. I thought I read that you don't chop up any wiring with his kit.

                  I was thinking a little while back about doing it myself with one of my vehicles, but I would end up chopping my wires up. I have no clue where i'd get any sockets to match up and use for this little project.
                  Yes. Rick's was a plug and play.
                  When I put relays on my 'cuda, I rewired permanently. Its not that hard but the idea of plug and play is pretty appealing. So appealing I bought Rick's harness.
                  '85 Grand Wagoneer
                  360 727auto, NP229
                  body by beer (PO)
                  carries wood inside
                  no "wood" outside
                  My other car is a fish

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                  • nograin
                    304 AMC
                    • Dec 19, 2000
                    • 2286

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 8man
                    I have talked to Todd Hill, Rick's son, and he will not be making them.

                    So if you want to make them, or send out the dimensions for construction of our own, feel free.

                    Todd had one request, that we continue calling them the Serehill headlight harness.

                    Thanks.
                    Thank you!
                    Me. I don't want to be doing it. I need to stay focused.
                    But I knew people were interested and I have the basic version here.

                    I'll get pictures up in a few days.
                    I'll also let Rob know there's interest for those who don't want to make themselves. There's a convenience and also savings if you're not going to use all the wire and terminals and tools on other projects. Its nice to have to have choices.
                    '85 Grand Wagoneer
                    360 727auto, NP229
                    body by beer (PO)
                    carries wood inside
                    no "wood" outside
                    My other car is a fish

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                    • gpcl16
                      232 I6
                      • Apr 02, 2016
                      • 121

                      #11
                      I installed a headlight relay kit several years ago on my '88 GW. I upgraded to H4 headlights which worked well for a few months until I melted some of my old wiring. After I repaired the stock wiring I ordered a kit off Ebay. I think it was this one, although my order history doesn't even go back that far:

                      Octane Lighting has premium automotive lighting options for classic car lighting and auto parts. From headlights to tail lights for vintage car or truck, we have what you need.


                      It was plug and play. Connects to the stock wiring with no cutting or splicing, and has worked great on my semi-daily driven Grand Wagoneer for about 4 years. I mounted the relays hidden behind the passenger side headlamp so there is no evidence of the harness other than an extra red wire coming off my battery.
                      1988 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
                      4" BDS Suspension Lift
                      Tru-Trac Rear
                      Howell GM TBI with Custom Tune

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                      • gophman
                        232 I6
                        • Mar 05, 2015
                        • 228

                        #12
                        There are kits on eBay for around $8.

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                        • nograin
                          304 AMC
                          • Dec 19, 2000
                          • 2286

                          #13
                          That must be typo. Even the cheapest, poorest made components will cost far more than that. Be lucky to find a pair of ceramic connectors for that price.
                          example:uxcell-Ceramic-Harness-Sockets-Headlight
                          and I wouldn'tuse them as a pigtail but replace the terminals so the wire is a splice free run.
                          Last edited by nograin; 02-15-2018, 06:46 AM.
                          '85 Grand Wagoneer
                          360 727auto, NP229
                          body by beer (PO)
                          carries wood inside
                          no "wood" outside
                          My other car is a fish

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                          • yossarian19
                            258 I6
                            • Nov 13, 2016
                            • 402

                            #14
                            I've had in mind that I could build those, and would enjoy trying to max-out the quality, but it seemed in poor taste to raise my hand on the forum. It still does, really.
                            Seems like an LED bulb retrofit could be pretty cost effective to achieve the same thing, while pulling less current out of our (old, low amperage) alternators as well.

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                            • gophman
                              232 I6
                              • Mar 05, 2015
                              • 228

                              #15
                              Yeah, sorry £8 so about $11 plug and play no splicing required ceramic headlight plugs.

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